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Originally Posted by justanoldmuso
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1. I have used BB on over 90 songs and countless demos and never had this buzz problem; but I'm on a PC.

2. Please confirm that you are using 44.1 as you said with 16 bit.
BB likes 44.1/16.

3. What sound interface are you using? or are you using the macs built in sound ??
more details on your work methods re creating a song from concept thru final mix
stereo master would help. this is highly odd.

4. You will have garage Band on your MAC.
Please run a test with it or another music production app to see if you get the buzz
process of elimination.

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Thank you. I appreciate the extra thought.

1 Good to know, thank you.

2 I'm confirming 44.1/16

3 I don't need to be using interfaces to get the error. it happens with or without an interface.
Regarding completing a song, this error began on day 1, October 2024, after i'd installed and got into playing with my new favourite toy, namely BIAB 2024.

4 No, I don't have GarageBand on any of my Macs, but sound is my living so I do have Reaper, Pro Tools, Ableton Live, Logic, Nuendo, Audacity (none of which 'buzz' with or without an interface).

The error/buzz only occurs from within the BIAB app, and no where else, and only drum loops/real tracks - I think. There are a lot of styles to try in the narrowing down.

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my reply.

then assuming you can play audio outside of bb running and assuming in non daw work just playing say a song from a library of songs...
the only conclusions are...

1..a setting in bb or..
(a pic of your audio settings in bb woul be helpfull.)
2..as you say a prob with the loops etc being used...or..
3..by any chance is the pg content your accessing being changed as to bit depth and/or sampling rate.

fyi...i was a reaps user from it coming on the market years ago now and also an early contributor of suggestions...but now as pg's realband has received some interesting upgrades i use rb mainly.
sadly rb is only on pc otherwise i would get a m4 mac mini as well as my pc.
which brings me to a question...when your running reaps on your mac
do you see a line at the top of reaps tracks view showing latency etc etc ? (we get that info on pc.) just curious what info is shown on that reaps top line...and what it says for your mac.
reason being i can compare with my new pc which shows around 4 milliseconds latency. in addition in reaps can you record tracks in the flac format like i can ?? thanks.

happiness.

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Last edited by justanoldmuso; 08/03/25 09:58 AM.

my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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For the frozen file it probably doesn't matter. Thanks for testing safemode.txt - so the problem happens at factory settings.
Do you have an original Band-in-a-Box UltraPAK hard drive, and are you running Band-in-a-Box directly FROM the hard drive?
Or have you copied the program to your internal Mac drive, or another hard drive? Please detail.
One thing I would suggest you do is run the build 806 patch installer again (select the appropriate hard drive) which will fix any permissions problems there might be with those files.... just to be sure, though I'm guessing you have done that already.


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LOOP ERROR UPDATE

Today I have updated to Mac BIAB 2025, and importantly re-installed everything.... error still there.

I spent today noting when the noise or silence occurs, it seems to be only on Styles that use (drum) LOOPs.

So I made a short boring video randomly playing Styles.
If you watch it you'll see all Styles play fine until I audition a Style that uses 'LOOP'.
In Styles that use LOOPs there is silence or a 'buzz' (a fractional sound looped).

Then I inspected all of the loops in the video, they play fine outside the BIAB app.

The link is live for 24 hours
https://wormhole.app/LOP3Xy#wxa-Sa6q85SH2RZynU78Mw

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Originally Posted by Andrew - PG Music
For the frozen file it probably doesn't matter. Thanks for testing safemode.txt - so the problem happens at factory settings.
Do you have an original Band-in-a-Box UltraPAK hard drive, and are you running Band-in-a-Box directly FROM the hard drive?
Or have you copied the program to your internal Mac drive, or another hard drive? Please detail.
One thing I would suggest you do is run the build 806 patch installer again (select the appropriate hard drive) which will fix any permissions problems there might be with those files.... just to be sure, though I'm guessing you have done that already.

Thank you.

No UltraPak HD (you mean a physical HD from PGMUSIC? no, I don't have that.)

It makes no difference where the files are installed, external, internal, the issue is still there.
Since October 2024 I've tried 10 different Macs, and 3 different operating systems. It always happens.

From today I'm now on BIAB Mac 2025. The issue is still there. Please watch this video, it's live for another 23 hours.
https://wormhole.app/LOP3Xy#wxa-Sa6q85SH2RZynU78Mw

I accept you're not seeing it, so there must be something unique.
Can you send me your TEENAGE save, and your preferences, and let's see if it still happens my end, yes?

It would really really help, so the person you're replying to can reference what you're replying to, if you used the "quote" option when replying. : )

Lastly, can i try an older Mac BIAB? What's the oldest I can try, are they available to download? I'm on Sonoma across 6 Mac now, the onstage Macs.

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Originally Posted by justanoldmuso
my reply.

then assuming you can play audio outside of bb running and assuming in non daw work just playing say a song from a library of songs...
the only conclusions are...

1..a setting in bb or..
(a pic of your audio settings in bb would be helpful.)
2..as you say a prob with the loops etc being used...or..
3..by any chance is the pg content your accessing being changed as to bit depth and/or sampling rate.

fyi...i was a reaps user from it coming on the market years ago now and also an early contributor of suggestions...but now as pg's realband has received some interesting upgrades i use rb mainly.
sadly rb is only on pc otherwise i would get a m4 mac mini as well as my pc.
which brings me to a question...when your running reaps on your mac
do you see a line at the top of reaps tracks view showing latency etc etc ? (we get that info on pc.) just curious what info is shown on that reaps top line...and what it says for your mac.
reason being i can compare with my new pc which shows around 4 milliseconds latency. in addition in reaps can you record tracks in the flac format like i can ?? thanks.

happiness.

om


Thank you.

1 I've already run the app multiple times with the 'safe mode' preferences. So if default settings produce the error, and tbh I don't use the default settings, the error is not being caused by something in the settings - THAT SAID, there are a TON of settings, so it is possible in theory. BUT, if a setting is causing it, I would consider that a bug.

2 yes, something is afoot with my loops and/or the loop script for BIAB Mac 2024/2025 (I've not used BIAB 2023).

3 good question, and I did consider this but again, multiple restarts and clean installs, and triple checking/monitoring i'm running at 44.1Khz don't point to this.

Re Reaper, I'll try it tomorrow. I'm in the UK currently, and it's late. : ) thanks again.

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(ps i'm a brit pomme as the aussies like to say...lol.)

ok heres a shot in the dark.

in bb...

1..set the tempo eg 120....now...

2..is your selected loop way off from this tempo ?
the bb picker (F7) has all the loops tempos...


thus if song tempo is 120 and loop tempo is say 150...
maybe this is the issue ??
myself i go no more than 20 percent below or above the song tempo when selecting a loop.
SO...if song tempo is 120 my bounds are 120 minus 24 as the low for the loop and
120 plus 24 for the high loop when i'm selecting a loop.
sometimes one needs to lower the bound loop values.
just experiment and see if the 'busy bees' go away.

in summary one shouldnt select a loop thats way way outside the song tempo.

happiness.

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Last edited by justanoldmuso; 08/03/25 04:34 PM.

my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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If you simply open one of the wave files into Band-in-a-Box i.e. File | Open, or Audio Import to the audio track, does it play?


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Originally Posted by Andrew - PG Music
If you simply open one of the wave files into Band-in-a-Box i.e. File | Open, or Audio Import to the audio track, does it play?

Thank you.
No, a loop added/imported does not play. Not from the picker, not from the file menu.
Also, tapping LOOP from the GUI to open the LOOP picker. Tapping PLAY for a loop in that window freezes up the BIAB app and I have to force quit to use it again.
I presume that is not normal?

Outside the BIAB app all of the LOOP WAVs play fine, the WAVs are not faulty.

I looked at the other 2 files that typically accompany the WAVs.
For example...

Complextro - fever_125_drum_loop_e_minor ev8_AcidInfo.txt
Complextro - fever_125_drum_loop_e_minor ev8.bt6
Complextro - fever_125_drum_loop_e_minor ev8.wav

I cannot read the bt6, but the txt files show a path to a PC C drive. Is that correct?

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Originally Posted by justanoldmuso
my reply.

...
which brings me to a question...when your running reaps on your mac
do you see a line at the top of reaps tracks view showing latency etc etc ? (we get that info on pc.) just curious what info is shown on that reaps top line...and what it says for your mac.
reason being i can compare with my new pc which shows around 4 milliseconds latency. in addition in reaps can you record tracks in the flac format like i can ??...

Yes, Macs can record tracks in the FLAC format I am happy to report.

Not sure about the latency question. Do you mean overall, from the driver? or latency per track?
Plugins can report its latency, most DAWs do that.
And overall latency is dependent on the HD speeds, audio engine, and sample rate used.
That make sense?

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Originally Posted by justanoldmuso
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(ps i'm a brit pomme as the aussies like to say...lol.)

ok heres a shot in the dark.

in bb...

1..set the tempo eg 120....now...

2..is your selected loop way off from this tempo ?
the bb picker (F7) has all the loops tempos...


thus if song tempo is 120 and loop tempo is say 150...
maybe this is the issue ??
myself i go no more than 20 percent below or above the song tempo when selecting a loop.
SO...if song tempo is 120 my bounds are 120 minus 24 as the low for the loop and
120 plus 24 for the high loop when i'm selecting a loop.
sometimes one needs to lower the bound loop values.
just experiment and see if the 'busy bees' go away.

in summary one shouldnt select a loop thats way way outside the song tempo.

happiness.

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Thank you.

The problem occurs with any loops from the XTRA PAKs, on and around the same or ballpark BPM.

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Originally Posted by Andrew - PG Music
If you simply open one of the wave files into Band-in-a-Box i.e. File | Open, or Audio Import to the audio track, does it play?


Thank you.

WAVs do not play.
M4A do play.

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I'm continuing to explore every option.

I've just launched some of the RealTracks DEMO songs. Same issue. WAV loops will not play.

This is BIAB 2025, Mac Sonoma. Silicon Mac.

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i tried RUMBLE and SHIFT styles.
worked fine.
(note i dont have some of the xtra styles you have.)

i tried various wav's ...same deal played fine.

is it only xtrapacs that buzz ??

happiness.

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Last edited by justanoldmuso; 08/04/25 03:24 PM.

my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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Originally Posted by Andrew - PG Music
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One thing I would suggest you do is run the build 806 patch installer again (select the appropriate hard drive) which will fix any permissions problems ...

Thank you.

What can you tell me about permissions? I know what they are and how to change them, should all of the LOOP folders and files have the exact same permissions? I have inspected and they don't. But there's no correlation of permissions between folders containing those that play or don't play either.

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Originally Posted by justanoldmuso
No Xtra.

i tried RUMBLE and SHIFT styles.
worked fine.
(note i dont have some of the xtra styles you have.)

i tried various wav's ...same deal played fine.

is it only xtrapacs that buzz ??

happiness.

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Thank you.

Are you running 2024/2025 Mac? Can you look at any of the Loop folders permissions? Are they consistent, the same permissions? Mine vary.

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i said up thread i was on win.
to clarify...much as i like the apple m series silicon...unfortunately i cant run my primary daw pg realband on it.
although i can run reaper...which ive been a user of since its coming to market....but reaper doesnt has certain rb features.

the other aspect for me even tho' i like the m series processors is as i'm a tech i want to see how far apple strategically can take the m series processors in terms of processing power viz the limitation of the laws of physics which is 'the elephant in the room' for tech companies.


as to your 'buzz' issue.

as another poster said up thread if this was happening to lots of users then there would probably more people complaining about it.

if you post a list of styles that are regular styles in bb (rather than xtra styles) that are 'buzzy' i'll be happy to try them out.

HERES AN IDEA !

one can run bb DIRECT by connecting the shipped drive direct to your mac i assume like we can on win. (check with pg).
ie no install needed. this is what i do. just hook up the pg drive and run bb direct from the pg drive. reason being the pg drives now being ssd are very fast.
here bb tracks generate in a 'blink of an eye'.

it might be an interesting TEST to just hook up the pg drive direct to the mac directly and see if you STILL get the 'buzz' when bb is run direct.
if you DONT then...and i might be wrong...but i suspect a setting on your mac.
its all a process of elimination.

@PG...am i correct...if i have a mac i can hook the pg drive up direct to the mac...like i can on pc and run bb direct from your drive ?
i would like to know in case i go over to the dark side.
actually for me i would run both mac and pc.
(i love my pg rb/bb pc set up.)

i dunno if the above helps much but just an idea to try.

happiness.

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Last edited by justanoldmuso; 08/05/25 05:09 AM.

my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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Originally Posted by justanoldmuso
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i said up thread i was on win.
...
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as another poster said up thread if this was happening to lots of users then there would probably more people complaining about it.
...
...

if you post a list of styles that are regular styles in bb (rather than xtra styles) that are 'buzzy' i'll be happy to try them out.
...

HERES AN IDEA !

one can run bb DIRECT by connecting the shipped drive direct to your mac i assume like we can on win. (check with pg).
ie no install needed. this is what i do. just ...


Thank you.

I did think you were on a PC, I wanted to check. So no Mac experience with BIAB?

I've stated (enough times) that this is somewhat unique. I have read people are saying similar things about files not playing on the Mac forum, just not using the 'buzz' word. I am completely 'ok' with a solution my end, however, given I'm working every day (almost) with audio in a professional capacity, and my own work computers are often running playback live on stage, this is perplexing.

I've listed Styles and specific loops that won't play, in this thread, and supplied many more to support. The audio all plays fine outside the BIAB app. So it is the app that is at fault. Or the default installation.

There is no drive supplied unless you order one, at least not for Mac.

Re your question to @pg, the PC and MAC apps are unique, and I am not aware that on a PC you can run the BIAB app from a non OS drive, only to access the content from an external drive. It is possible with 'portable apps'. However the requirements for PC BIAB is a Windows os, and Windows doesn't run (afaik, could be wrong) on external drives. I suspect what is happening in your external HD case is that the content is being accessed from the external drive, but the app/program (BIAB) is running from the computers internal HD. Does that make sense?

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i hope you get things sorted.
i gave it my best shot.

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my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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Thank you.

Did you test that on a Mac? Running which OS?

I will do the generate/save. Shall I do it with the SAFE MODE preferences in place? Or back to my preferences?
I have a number of machines for testing, both Intel and ARM and with a variety of macOS versions up to the macOS Tahoe beta. I was not able to duplicate this problem on any of them. Safe mode shouldn't make a difference when saving a file.

Originally Posted by No Xtra
I can tap the FREEZE button on all of the tracks, but playing back after doing it, both LOOP tracks's freeze buttons 'turn off'.
That's normal - as Loops do not generate different information on each generation, they do not freeze. I didn't think of that when asking for a frozen file earlier, it's something I do by default now.

Originally Posted by No Xtra
But I'm almost certain it is caused by loops not looping properly.
I agree.

Originally Posted by No Xtra
I have purchased 2025 Mac, and I'm preparing for a total re-install (again) next week, and it would be a huge relief if the issue is solved. I am perfectly happy to re-install, and also to accept whatever reason is the cause.
I think that might be worth trying. Is BIAB installed onto internal storage or external? If external, what type of drive - solid state/SSD or hard drive/HDD? If possible do you know the drive format - APFS, EXFAT, HFS+/Mac OS Extended? Is the format "case sensitive"?

Originally Posted by No Xtra
Support have not acknowledged I've sent what they've asked for. Neither Andrew or Simon replied to my simple followup questions that would help to rule out certain specifics. I'm trying not to be too disappointed.
Apologies, it was a long weekend here and we were both away from work.

Originally Posted by No Xtra
Can you send me your TEENAGE save, and your preferences, and let's see if it still happens my end, yes?
I will do that. My preferences wouldn't make a difference, but fresh preferences might - close BB then rename the Preferences folder to Preferences2, then launch BB and try again.

Originally Posted by No Xtra
Lastly, can i try an older Mac BIAB? What's the oldest I can try, are they available to download? I'm on Sonoma across 6 Mac now, the onstage Macs.
The oldest version of macOS supported by BB 2025 is El Capitan (macOS 10.11.x). Are all the Macs you tested on running Sonoma?

Originally Posted by No Xtra
What can you tell me about permissions? I know what they are and how to change them, should all of the LOOP folders and files have the exact same permissions? I have inspected and they don't. But there's no correlation of permissions between folders containing those that play or don't play either.
Permissions should be set to allow read and write to all users. Can you set the main Band-in-a-Box folder to allow that, then click on the "..." button below that and choose Apply To Enclosed Items? Might take a little while to do that as there are up to 400,000 files in the BIAB folder.

Even better, if everything is on an external drive, you can set the drive to "Ignore Ownership" - if you Get Info on the drive that option will be below the permissions section.


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Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.

Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!

Special offers until December 31st, 2025!

All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!

Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!

Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!

Special offers until December 31st, 2025!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!

Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.

Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!

Special offers until December 31st, 2025!

All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!

Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!

Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!

Special offers until December 31st, 2025!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

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