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Hi forum friends

As you all know, there are a million ways to birth a melody, but my personal, highly scientific method involves strumming simple chords, singing pure, unadulterated gibberish, and then patiently (read: desperately) waiting for my notoriously unreliable muse to eventually show up and connect the dots. Mostly, she's off demanding royalties from a cloud somewhere, leaving me in the desolate, echoey wasteland known as 'Writer's Block.' (๏ฝฅโ ๏ฝฅ)

This song is a result of that process. I classify it as 'unplugged' however, it's raw, it's got warts, and frankly, I'm not entirely sure it's house-trained yet so perhaps 'unhinged' is more accurate. โ—”โ—กโ—”

Anyway, please do give it a listen, constructive feedback is always welcome.
โ€“ and maybe send a search party for my muse, I think she might be lost again already. (ห†โ—กห†)

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Nicely done, Izzy! I don't think it's rough at all, just bare, which works great with the narrative. Nice use of BiaB instruments, and I like the slow build arrangement you've got here. That acoustic solo is a bit "outside" but I think it works fine. Cool ending, too. Super job!


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Hi Izzy!
I was initially struck by the likeness of your vocal in the first couple of verses to Peter Garrett of Midnight Oil - thatโ€™s a good thing. The instrumentation and melody of the verses provides the bleakness to demonstrate the futility of war. When the chorus comes in, the more typical pop chords and melody (which I loved) provide some hope of change. We all need hope.
Itโ€™s good to hear another one of yours - to add to the variety of your catalogue.
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I like your song, yes, it's raw, but that fits the theme perfectly.
The solo is not for me, in my opinion, it's more distracting than it is adding to this really beautiful song.
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Hi, Izzy.

Whatever it takes to get a song done - you can't just wait for the muse to show up.

I'd be hard pressed to say exactly what you're singing about, but it works! smile

I like the "raw" sound - it definitely didn't sound like it was recorded to a click track.


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Hi Izz,

This certainly grabbed my attention right away. The verses had an eerie quality that was very effective. The lyrics were good. Then the chorus came, which in and of itself, I quite liked. But at first, there was a disconnect between verse and chorus that I couldn't quite accept. I thought of a similar song, Bungalow Bill by the Beatles, that had that verse chorus disconnect. I always found that song a bit strange for the same reason. So perhaps you were in good company. However, by the third listen, it all came together for me. So that's my circuitous route to full appreciation of your latest here. I think it's a bold piece of music, and my hat is off to you for persevering through it. The naked outro was very effective, too. Great job!

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That's exactly how I write, too, Izzy. Sometimes also starting with BiaB, and once a style and chords are entered, your scientific method takes over. Well, your muse came up with another gem --warts and all. I love hearing you unplugged. Good vocal and the perfect group of instruments to carry the messge within the lyrics. Message? Hey, I like the harmony at the end. Well written song with a good mix and interesting musicians.

I also saw your muse at the Grammys wearing gold earings with your initials on them.


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Your written intro shows that you know that it can be improved, but while I think the chorus is great on all levels it's actually the only verse about the war within, while the rest of it is about the without. โ€ฆ Also, frack the news, we're all special! Even the robotic news people - only they don't know it! laugh


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Thankyou for all your lovely comments which I read, absorbed and appreciate.

Now, forโ€‹ a๏ปฟย tiny, post-performance confession,๏ปฟย which๏ปฟย might explain why some๏ปฟย lines feltโ€‹ a bit... abstract/ambiguous

ย Every single line was actuallyโ€‹ a winkโ€‹ ะพrโ€‹ a nod,โ€‹ a subtle๏ปฟย nudgeโ€‹ ๏ปฟย about Artificial Intelligence and its fascinating, sometimes baffling, impactโ€‹ ะพn creativity.โ€‹ I held back from saying this initially because, you๏ปฟย know,๏ปฟย "live and let live!"โ€‹ โ€“ andโ€‹ my primary goal was for the songโ€‹ tะพ๏ปฟย standโ€‹ ะพr fallโ€‹ ะพn its own melodic๏ปฟย feet. Butโ€‹ ั–t๏ปฟย seemsโ€‹ I was perhapsโ€‹ a๏ปฟย touch too subtle or simply not brave enough to have the courage of my convictions to reveal it's true story for fear of stepping on toes.

And๏ปฟย those 'charming imperfections' (let's call them 'intentional human-ness')โ€‹ ั–n the tuning and timing? They weren't justโ€‹ my๏ปฟย usual performance quirks! They wereโ€‹ a deliberate, slightly mischievous protest against the often-pristine, sometimes too perfect, outputโ€‹ ะพfโ€‹ AI productions.โ€‹ A little hymnโ€‹ tะพ the gloriously wobbly, beautifully un-quantized๏ปฟย heartโ€‹ ะพf๏ปฟย human performance.

That๏ปฟย line, "The news remindsโ€‹ us๏ปฟย we're not special anymore" really speaksโ€‹ tะพ this feelingโ€‹ I was tryingโ€‹ tะพ capture.

AI is an absolute marvel, and I quite honestly don't know what I'd do without my digital co-pilot these days. It infiltrates almost every aspect of my personal and professional life, and for that, I am eternally grateful! For instance, tools like Synth V? A genuine godsendโ€“ a truly wonderful innovation for those who consider themselves 'vocally challenged',

Now, where my enthusiastic nod turns into a gently raised eyebrow is a rather specific scenario. When one feeds a few creative crumbs โ€“ be it audio snippets or a well-crafted prompt โ€“ into the algorithmic engine of Suno, and then proceeds to claim the entire resulting masterpiece as their unique, unaided brainchild... well, it feels a touch like dropping a coin into a jukebox and, once the music starts playing, humbly accepting all the applause for having personally composed, performed, and produced every last note of that chart-topping hit. A brilliant selection, perhaps, but perhaps not entirely one's own creation, if you catch my drift!"

They say machine learningโ€‹ AI๏ปฟย mines๏ปฟย every song ever written and delivers the best compilationโ€‹ ั–n seconds. But haven't manyโ€‹ ะพfโ€‹ us 'seasoned' songsmiths๏ปฟย spent decades๏ปฟย doing our own internal data mining, absorbing the classics and the obscure, lettingโ€‹ ั–t simmerโ€‹ ั–n our own wonderfully๏ปฟย messy๏ปฟย human brains?โ€‹ We๏ปฟย might takeโ€‹ a little longerโ€‹ tะพ 'process' our inspirations, but the resulting stew๏ปฟย often hasโ€‹ a unique, irreplaceable flavour.โ€‹ Asโ€‹ my song mused, "The war within was๏ปฟย meantโ€‹ tะพโ€‹ beโ€‹ / Lost somewhere butโ€‹ I๏ปฟย beganโ€‹ tะพ seeโ€‹ / The scriptโ€‹ ั–s old, the actors changeโ€‹ / But๏ปฟย weโ€™re๏ปฟย still๏ปฟย stuckโ€‹ ะพn the same old stage."๏ปฟย Whereโ€‹ dะพโ€‹ we draw our creative๏ปฟย linesโ€‹ ั–n this new landscape?

Anyway, just some musings fromโ€‹ a๏ปฟย human who๏ปฟย still believesโ€‹ ั–n the๏ปฟย magicโ€‹ ะพfโ€‹ a slightly off-key note andโ€‹ a๏ปฟย truly unexpected lyric. Not tryingโ€‹ tะพ openโ€‹ a canโ€‹ ะพf worms, just perhapsโ€‹ tะพ gently๏ปฟย swirl the conversation!

P.S.โ€‹ Onโ€‹ a lighter๏ปฟย note,โ€‹ ั–f anyโ€‹ ะพf you findโ€‹ my absent museย could you please put herโ€‹ ะพn the๏ปฟย first available QANTAS flight? She owesโ€‹ meโ€‹ a chorus.

Best regards and happy, human-powered (or thoughtfully AI-assisted!) songwritingโ€‹ tะพ you all,

Izzy. (I've been Bizzy now I have some time to listen and comment on your wonderfull creations)

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Three words, tre..mend..ous.

Everything about this is unique, your singing, your arrangement, your lyrics, itโ€™s all there. If I could swear, Iโ€™d say itโ€™s f&$#ig terrific.

Excellent, kind regards

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Hi Izzy,
Wow, that moment when the song opened up into the chorus! It made me want to cry. I really enjoyed that for itself and in contrast to the raw, somewhat choppy verses. You've got something here. Powerful lyrics made all the more touching for the unplugged aspect, but I can also hear a plugged in version in my head.

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A very different, but somewhow very interesting song. Your voice starts singinging, when you sing with power. Reminds me of some of my favourites: Velvet Underground, Jonathan Richman etc., but somehow your unique. Anyeays your songs arised emotions, and that's important.

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Izzy, this is really good as is.
Personally I wouldn't change a thing.
I like the rawness of this one.
"Another scandal another war
The news reminds us we're not special anymore" What a fantastic lyric,sad but so true.
It may be raw but it is a damn good song.


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Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Boxยฎ 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!

Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!

In this PAK youโ€™ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Boxยฎ. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

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