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I'm a member of a a music agency called Taxi.com. They have a listing that calls for songs with lyrics about "WINNING" and "VICTORY" . I have written such a song and would like to submit it to Taxi. Their client wants songs with lyric themes in the general wheelhouse of the following references: "Started From the Bottom" by Drake "Unstoppable" by Sia "Eye Of The Tiger" by Survivor "Survivor" by Destiny's Child "The Winner Takes It All" by ABBA The above songs have a variety of different styles, but lyrically, they are all about winning. I would like to know what other BIAB users think would be the best style to employ for my song before I send my masterpiece to a singer for recording the vocals. I have BIAB 2024 but am prepared to upgrade to BIAB 2025 if that's necessary to make my song sound as commercial as possible. Thanks for your interest. Andrew Scott
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Have you listened to some of the samples on this page? Perhaps something from RealTracks Set 431 : Funk & R&B Horns might work, but without knowing your lyrics, one can only guess. Go through some of the online demo's there to see if you find something suitable.
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Go to the style picker and in the upper right hand window type in a song similar to what you are looking for as a style. This will give you style options that may match your song.
I'm no longer allowed to go caroling at the psych hospital. I guess Do You Hear What I Hear was a bad song choice!
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Hey Andrew,
Part of me wonders if "their client" might just be one clever prompt away from being satisfied. 😉
Have you ever considered a slightly... speedier route? Imagine just heading over to SUNO (or similar AI music generator) and dropping in a detailed prompt like: 'Uplifting, anthemic pop song about overcoming challenges and achieving victory, with a powerful female vocal, blending the epic feel of Sia's "Unstoppable" and Destiny's Child's "Survivor" with the determined grit of "Eye of the Tiger," and a touch of modern hip-hop for a "started from the bottom" vibe. Make it sound commercially ready.'
Just a thought for our brave new world of instant gratification! Super keen to hear how your song turns out, however you choose to craft it. Good luck with Taxi!
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The TAXI requests for songs generally come with fairly short deadlines.
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Part of me wonders if "their client" might just be one clever prompt away from being satisfied. 😉 No need to wonder! I plugged your suggestion in and got this stirring anthem: https://suno.com/song/8fb16b7b-f177-493d-922b-26b42f47a432Awesome lyrics, like: rise we vowand With every heartbeat, courage fills the nightMy favorite: Shining like the stars, we're a beacon of light ... Onward we march, guided by the light.Because not only does Suno not notice it's already used "light", but the guiding light is... us? 
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Thanks for all your comments, people. I appreciate the time you took to respond to my concern. Regarding the Suno track, https://suno.com/song/8fb16b7b-f177-493d-922b-26b42f47a432 it's amazing in terms of the feel and production. That's the kind of output I want to achieve. I wanted to go to Suno, or somesuch, and say, give me a track in this genre, using the attached melody, lyrics and chord symbols. But it doesn't seem to work that way. I love my own melody, lyrics and chord symbols, and just need a quick, professional production of the same, without hiring real musicians!!
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Thanks for all your comments, people...I love my own melody, lyrics and chord symbols, and just need a quick, professional production of the same, without hiring real musicians!! Hi, Andrew. If it were me, I'd go to StylePicker and filter for the tempo, feel and time sigature I was interested in, AND a keyword like "epic" that will often be found in some of the bigger RealStyle descriptions. These StylePicker selections will often include some of the energetic characteristics found in the songs you list that I recognize. It will take some poking around to find what you're looking for though. Good luck!
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Wouldn’t it be funny if all submitters to Taxi lodged the same AI generated song! I know it wouldn’t happen, but it’s fun to imagine. Andrew
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I wanted to go to Suno, or somesuch, and say, give me a track in this genre, using the attached melody, lyrics and chord symbols. But it doesn't seem to work that way. Actually, it does work that way. There's a "cover" feature that will do that. You can use BiaB to create the backing (something it does really well), sing the vocals, and load that into Suno to have it create a "cover", telling Suno how you want to it produced. Several users on the forum have done exactly that - created a song using BiaB, and then had Suno create a "cover". That said, you've got the issue of not having the individual stems if the customer asks for them. And if they want a modified version of the song, it'll be hard to create. Plus, the audio quality of the track may be problematic, but you might be able to use something like OpenVino SuperResolution (free in Audacity) to upscale the resolution. it's amazing in terms of the feel and production. If I were to look in BiaB, I could find something like Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm PopUpliftPulsing Ev16 120 that might be useful for the keyboard. And maybe PopPromiseEv16 for the drums. But most of the production is the vocals. There are various ways you could get vocals (synthetic, hire a singer, etc.), but what do you do then? Even if you had the raw materials, turning them into a powerful track isn't trivial. If you lack the ability to create that kind of production, there's no magic way to get those skills in a short time. All said, while there are shortcuts available, those shortcuts are available to everyone else. So the part that you add had better be much, much better than your competition.
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Here's a couple of observations from another TAXI member. That song you created with SUNO..... throw it away. Don't even think about submitting it. Regarding the recommendations to use SUNO or some other AI to create your song. DON'T even consider that. Just don't. Nothing will get you banned quicker in the sync world currently. If you read the listing you will see the warning NOT to use any AI. No sync publishers are going to sign anything that is created by AI. The first issue is, it can't be copyright protected. Too many legal grey areas and encumbrances. Many, if not all the sync publishers and libraries are adamantly opposed to the use of ANY AI other than using it to master the song. One of the publishers I'm signed with has even banned the use of Synth V vocals and doesn't want anything that was posted on Soundcloud or sent by WeTransfer since both of those are allowing AI models to train on the content those sites handle. Violation of the extensive AI prohibition with that publisher can result in the termination of the writing agreement and removal of the catalog from the publishers overall catalog. They are serious about that so don't even think about going with AI for sync. As per the listing on the TAXI site: Your Submissions can NOT be commercially released on Spotify, Apple Music, etc., OR be encumbered by ANY other publishing, licensing, administration, and/or exploitation deals (whether non-exclusive or exclusive), including publishing/licensing agreements with CD Baby Pro, TuneCore, etc. Do NOT submit any material with unauthorized samples of any other artists’ music, sounds, or any other form of media. Broadcast Quality is needed.
AI ALERT: This Company can't accept or sign music that has been lyrically or melodically composed using generative AI, nor will they accept backing tracks, full instrumental tracks, or vocal performances created with AI. Regarding using BB styles.... Yes, but it depends. Listen to the examples they gave you for targeting the listing. BB styles tend to be very "beige" compared to the examples they provided. You'll really need to think out of the box and create a unique version of the song. Don't just grab a style, slap on some (paid) vocals, and think it's going to pass the screeners. It might, but chances are, it won't. That's not to say you can't use BB styles right out of the box and get a "forward", I have done that, but, it's not likely for this style/listing. The one song on the examples list....Eye of the Tiger.... listen to how it starts. BB will never give you something like that. BUT.... if you can provide that kind of "enhancement" to the BB style..... that would be fine. Give it a shot..... you never know. Go to the Taxi forum. I'm not sure which subforum it's in, but there's an entire section of the forum dedicated to folks asking questions about submitting, and often provide a link to their song they are planning to submit. Listen and read the feedback. Consider submitting your song just as the instrumental bed to see what people say. Just tell them it's the musical bed, you're recording the vocals, and want some feedback on what you have. See what feedback you get. That's my advice for what it's worth. BTW: Taxi isn't a music agency. It's a trusted listings and screening service. They get listings from the industry and make them available to members. The members can submit music to those listings where they are screened to eliminate the musical slag. This ensures that the producers and end users get targeted, quality, usable, music for the project, hence making them a trusted source of music and listings that are valuable to both musicians and producers.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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