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Hi folks,
I have loads of partitions and space on my computer and think that its maybe time I give linux another go. I installed it one time years ago on my old xp machine but didn't like the way it had to create its own boot loader that displayed itself if I remember correctly before the windows bootloader (I decided to uninstall linux and had some trouble removing the boot loader and partition)
Has linux moved on since then whereby on install it will just add itself to the windows bootloader or something simple like that?
I dont really want to run with a live cd version.
Thanks very much for any advice to this linux novice.
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I have a machine running Xubuntu, which I like very much, but the boot loader is as you say, the first thing up. I don't know about the effect of uninstalling it, since I haven't done that.
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I dual boot with Ubuntu (desktop) and Vista and have installed Ubuntu on a number of friends' computers. As Matt says, the bootloader is always first cab off the rank. If I were in your situation, I'd do a bit of research to see how one goes about removing the "grub bootloader" when uninstalling Linux.
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I did a search last year for the grub bootloader and changed the order to windows first, so that linux was my choice. It has been a while but their might be some other options available
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When removing Linux if you don't have a Windows repair CD you're screwed.When Linux installs it destroys the Windows bootloader by design.
If it was me I'd do a WUBI install first and use it for 6 months. If you don't like it you can uninstall just like a program cause at that point that's what it is.
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You can also install Linux in a Virtual Machine on Windows. This then boots into Windows first, then lets you run Linux when and if you want to, and lets you switch between the two OS's at will as they are both running at the same time.
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Under dual-boot conditions, it is most advantageous to have your most robust operating system set up as boot priority 1. This gets you on the web fast and safe, and keeps your more fragile system in reserve for windows-specific tasks only. Acer and Asus offer a Linux "quick-start" option on many of their Windows 7 equipped laptops, for just this purpose. In addition, the EXT3 or EXT4 file system in the Linux partition is very efficient and never requires de-fragging; as much of your data as possible should be stored here, safely and securely. Personally, I recommend only one O/S per drive. I use Linux exclusively, now(Puredyne - http://puredyne.org/), but have a small hard drive with XP loaded, to run Windows-dependent software, if necessary.
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I'll also vouch for using a different drive for dual booting. That way, you can choose at the BIOS level which OS to use, and not worry about the boot sector becoming corrupted. Windows never sees Linux, and you can read and write to Windows from Linux if need be. I've borked GRUB on in the past, and recovering was never fun. Plus, it's always nice to have a "spare" drive when one of them invariably goes out. My Linux hard drive bit the dust just last week.  As John mentioned, WUBI might be an attractive option, since you've got disk space a-plenty.
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Thanks a lot guys. I'm going to give the WUBI a go and see how it goes. Maybe a bit down the road I'll be a real linux junkie and appreciate it as those who use it a lot do.  musiclover
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Good choice. Your friend: Ubuntu Forum
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I'm going to give the WUBI a go and see how it goes.
An issue that some folks encounter with Ubuntu is choosing the right version for their purposes. Generally, it is best for a user with limited Linux skills to choose an older release that has been thoroughly equipped with all the software you need to comfortably get the job done. (Newer versions tend to have a lot of bells and whistles which can unnecessarily complicate the process for an inexperienced user.) Select one of their LTS (long term support) versions - I think version 10.04 is their most recent LTS release.
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My last Linux distro was Fedora 13. Many reports said it was a cutting edge bells and whistles like Oren said, but it was the only distro that loaded and i found a cups driver that saw my printer in seconds, and i was able to get everythin i wanted so far with one exception. I tried Ubuntu, but nothing i did would get printer support, and i gave up. I then tried ubuntu on an old laptop, and it worked pretty good, but i could never get it to send video out of the aux monitor port so i could display on my flat screen, so that went back to win XP. Fedora is perking along very solid it does a weekly update of the software for bug and security patches, and is so far flawless. Loads fast, and surfs smoothly. Runs most software perfectly.
There are actually two issues i wish i could figure out, 1. i can not for the life of me figure out jack audio and can not get a recording software to work. It will record, but the audio is broken and halting and sounds very slow. 2. i have not yet found a PDF building plan reader for taking off estimates of blueprints. In window there is auto design review from autodesk, it is free and very powerful. But so far there is no option in linux, and i can't get it to run under wine or crossover.
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A while back, most of the Linux distributions hit the level of maturity that most stuff "just works". I'm at the point where if there's a deal breaker (configuring WINE, getting audio to work), I'll just find a different one that works rather than bang my head against the wall trying to get it working.
Many Linux distributions have live CDs, so you can test things out against your hardware before committing. There are a number of distributions especially configured for audio, for example.
But I've found it's much easier to do audio in Windows, and that's pretty much what I use Windows for.
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Same here DAvid, i use windows XP on my DAW, and fedora 13 on my internet e-mail "home" machine. I have been very satisfied with it, and adding audio is just a curiosity at this point. I am just a few months away from trying to do a new build for The DAW. I want to eventually jump up to win7.
Maybe a Laptop and keep the old dawg as a backup!
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I think I'm sticking with a desktop when I do finally switch to Win7 for DAW. The ability to have extra hard drives (internal, not USB) is too appealing. Also thinking I'd like to stick with actual soundcard as opposed to USB interface...
That said, I would like to get a USB interface for the existing laptop; would come in handy at times.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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There is a lot to be said about the stability of a desktop. I know my system will work, i know my sound card will not glitch on me. I would like to pick up a Delta 44 or 66 or even a 1010 cheap somewhere as it would be nice to have more than one input or i guess two mono. For those rare time a friend comes over and we record together.
In the past i just ties everything in thru the mixer and recorded stereo tracks, but the ability to mix the separate tracks is optimal.
Then though you still have to have something to front those inputs like a mixer with multiple outs. So i might go with a 8 input USB interface rack mount. Just to get it all in one.
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Although I do have a mixer with plenty of outs, this can be accomplished in a few different ways. We use a patchbay at the studio, makes things handy. Or you can connect mics to channel 1 & 2 on the 1010lt, and use the outs from your guitar/keyboard/bass amps for the other inputs. If you need more than two mics, then, yeah, you'd need something to handle that stage. I was lucky and found an MX 3282a before they were discontinued; 8 AUX outs and 8 subgroup outs. Lots of flexibility for large gatherings. It has held up well with all the moving around it gets. I'd buy a used one if I found it! (gotta have some room available though, it's about 45" long ang 30" wide..) Only link I could find - http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-MX3282A-Eurodesk?sku=631211
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I would like to pick up a Delta 44 or 66 or even a 1010 cheap somewhere as it would be nice to have more than one input or i guess two mono... i might go with a 8 input USB interface rack mount. Just to get it all in one.
Coincidentally, the M-audio Delta series works very well with Linux audio (real-time kernel) distributions.
Thus far, I have also had excellent results running USB devices with Dynebolic, and my wife's choice of O/S on her HP laptop - Linux Mint - also manages USB peripherals very well. (Dynebolic and Mint are user-developed offshoots of Ubuntu)
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