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Working on a song in 4/4 time and would like to be able to pause for 2 beats before starting the next chorus or set of verses.
Using Edit>Insert Blank Bar command makes the pause two beats too long ( would like a "1 and 2 and" pause, not a "1 and 2 and 3 and 4" pause.
Is this possible?
As always, thanks for the input.
Carkins
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Someone that has more experience will likely answer soon but there is a way using the ubiquitous f5 that will set parameters for the measure and you can change the time there I believe. I have never had to do that so I don't know for sure. Someone will have the definitive answer for you soon.
But it is absolutely possible.
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I think you are talking about Brecks in a song which are addressed by "Rests, Shots and Holds" - and my understanding is these are fully funtional in BIAB but not in RB (at least not for creating them). There is a code system to type the chords or you can simply use Alt-F5 (in BIAB). Sounds like you want a two beat rest. Here is the BIAB Help on the subject: Rests, Shots, and Holds "Breaks" (Rests, Shots, and Held Chords) "Breaks" are points in a song when one or more of the instruments rests, plays a shot, or holds a chord. Rests Can specify any, some, or all instruments to rest at any bar. For example, you could rest all instruments except the bass for the first 4 bars, and then add in the piano for 4 bars, and then add in the entire band for the rest of the song. You may optionally disable the rests in the middle or final choruses (where people are likely taking solos, and rests are not appropriate). Shots You can specify certain instruments play a "shot," where the chord is played and then a rest follows. For example the song "Rock Around The Clock" has a shot on beat 1 followed by a rest for seven beats. Held chords You can specify that certain instruments hold a chord sustained for a certain number of bars. For example, you can have the bass and piano hold a chord sustained while the drums continue to play a pattern A chord can be specified as a Rest by adding a period after the chord. indicates a C chord that is a Rest. A chord can be specified as a Shot by adding two periods after the chord. indicates a C chord that is a Shot. A chord can be specified as a Held Chord by adding three periods after the chord. indicates a C chord that is a Held Chord. Putting these breaks into the chord sheet: in the example that follows, bar 1 will have a normal chord then bar 2 will have a chord with a break on it (a rest, shot, or held chord). RealTracks will play rests, shots, and held chords if: - the "Allow RealTracks Shots, Holds, and Pushes" option is enabled in the Song Settings dialog and the RealTracks Settings dialog, - you have the RealTracks shots and holds files installed, and - the Holds (H) column in the RealTracks Picker shows a number. If there is a number there (other than a blank field), then they are all supported. If there is an "n" this means that they are supported, but you don’t have the Holds_## files in the RealTracks\Library\Holds folder. You are getting into deep water now, hope you can swim... 
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It sounds like he is more interested in putting in a measure of 2. I swore there was a way to change the time signature for one measure and then revert.
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Glub,glub!!
I'll take it anyway I can get it!
I've actually played around with the shots and holds in another part of the song and they worked perfectly for a part that required an abrupt halt followed by a held chord.
Sort of like a quick stop in a doorway followed by the crowd pushing you through.
Used an A. D... for that effect.
Tried adding double held chords to see if it would extend the pause long enough but that didn't seem to work. A... A...
Then added a Blank bar and filled it with another held Chord A...
But that was too long.
That's why I thought it might be done by adding a truncated ($5 word) bar with only 2 beats instead of 4.
Still open to suggestions and will update if I stumble on an answer.
Have a good one,
Carkins
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In the realband manual page 72 there is a reference to rests, etc.
Rests/Shot/Held Chord/Pushes
Rests, Shot, Held Chord, and Pushes are supported by the RealBand generation routines:
A chord can be specified as a Rest by adding a period after the chord.
e.g. “C.” indicates a C chord that is a Rest.
A chord can be specified as a Shot by adding two periods after the chord.
e.g. “C..” indicates a C chord that is a Shot.
A chord can be specified as a Held Chord by adding three periods after the chord.
e.g. “C…” indicates a C chord that is a Held Chord.
Pushes:
^C = 8th push
^^C = 16th push
Note: Pushes, Shots, Rests, Hold Chords can ONLY be entered in the Chords Window.
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At the bottom of the screen is a window for 'Meter'
Enter any time changes in there at whatever measure you want!
You guys are making this way harder than it needs to be. Enter a bar of 2/4 then make the next bar 4/4 and voila, a half measure break.
Last edited by rharv; 08/28/11 08:00 AM.
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Quote:
At the bottom of the screen is a window for 'Meter'
Enter any time changes in there at whatever measure you want!
You guys are making this way harder than it needs to be. Enter a bar of 2/4 then make the next bar 4/4 and voila, a half measure break.
Rharv, you must have been watching the football game last night when we were all floundering ...
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It was a great game! 
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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They still have a team up there in that state up north?
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Lions, not blue and gold last night. And we have GOOD team this year for a change. Everyone from ESPN to Wall Street Journal says this state is poised for a great turnaround.
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Yeah. I saw the preseason game against the Browns. The first half when most of the starters were in the game was good football. Stafford really needs to learn how to duck though. He takes a LOT of hits.
Did your "Riverfest" already happen for this year or was the "sit in" from a previous year? Cleveland had one as well for many years but the deterioration of the downtown area where the river is has seen it decline. It used to be a "must do" event with bands playing everywhere and food vendors all up and down the street, and a "Parade of Lights" after dark that turned into a boat decorating contest. Great event that the inner city punks ruined.
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If you mean the float down, it happened already. If you mean the fest in Detroit I honestly can't answer. I would guess it already happened since next week is Labor Day already, but can't report on how it went.
Locally, the float down is the big event, that and Blue Water Festival, which is also being taken over by the people again. The city tried an outside promoter with terrible results the last two years and the following city council meeting was a takeover by the citizens. Council immediately stated they are letting the locals run it again from here on out. Another great showing by the local population that resulted in change.
I'm telling ya, things are changing around here. People are not only caring, but showing up in numbers to get the change we want/need. I hope it is happening all over.
I really like what the starbucks ceo started nationally with his campaign donation idea. We all need to do something if we expect change. Don't wait for the next guy. Just show up.
Oh, and the browns game, while entertaining, showed only half of our defensive line. The way they controlled Brady yesterday was exciting. And we were still missing a key defensive end in Vanden Bosch. (Farley was out too) Its gonna be a fun season to watch.
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Thanks for the heads up on the "Meter" window.
Still so much to learn.
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Glad you caught that, we got kinda side-tracked in the last few posts. sorry
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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