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OK, this has happened once too often to not report... I cannot pinpoint what exactly causes this to happen...but at some point when working, 1/2 of my stereo track will 'vanish', leaving me with just the left channel (see pic). Sometimes it's on my main lap steel stereo track, this time it's the BIAB Drum track. I've spent much time today editing this track and now I will need to regen it and star over.   Anyone else having this happen ?
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Hey Mitch,
Go into "prefs" and the first page that comes up will be the general tab - look at the very bottom - change the setting for initial track type from stereo to mono.
I was having tracks changing and that solved it for me maybe it'll work for you.
Josie
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Changing default type fixes this?? If that fixes the problem it may be a great clue for development to know.
I have seen this behavior in previous versions early on in the version, but it got solved with updates (at least here).
Do you both have the latest version? I think 2012 is at build 5 ..
MitchC, try opening the backup file (its in the File Menu pulldown).
That will get you back to a previously saved version .. RB keeps a backup as long as you didn't tell it *not* to. It keeps quite a few of them if left to deafault setting here.
Last edited by rharv; 01/12/12 07:06 PM.
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I have the latest and greatest of everything. This has happened with 2011 version also.
And yes, if you want a stereo track, it should not erase 1/2 the track. Again, not sure what exactly causes this but it's happened multiple times and is getting frustrating (not complaining, just would like to know what's going on?).
I record my lap steel in stereo (POT XT into Real Band stereo). Mostly, this has happened to my stereo 'live' track and I can't get it back.
I've regen'd these drum tracks about 40 times and can't get the same fills I had with the original track. (multi-riff does not apply to Real Drums I just discovered).
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Check the backup files and see what is left from saving.
Whenever you save a project in RB it makes backups automatically. You may be able to 'go back' to a working version with the generation you want.
Click FILE - Open Backup File...
Then Browse to C:\Realband\RBBackup folder and look for the same filename with applicable date. Worth a shot.
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I'll check that rharv, but the fact remains... why is this happening at all ?
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Dunno, I haven't seen it in quite a while.
When it did happen here (I think early 2011 version) I couldn't figure it out. I have since built a new system so that may be part of it too. I haven't seen it in a while. It seemed to happen when I was tinkering with that specific track ..
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Thanks. But 'tinkering' is what it's all about eh ? If we can' tinker without messing things up, then it's just frustrating.
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Maybe you should save as soon as you record it ,did you report it to PG ? Got any extree Big Hair for the follicly challenged ,share it man !
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I save often ! You don't know this has happened until the next open... then, poof, 1/2 the track is gone. That's what is frustrating... I don't know it's happened ! The track looks and plays fine all during editing etc. (saving often). It dosen't dissapear while it's open. Then, close RB down, open it back up and 1/2 a track is gone.
No, not reported yet.
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rharv, what was happening to me was that any mono edits I made and copied on a new track - and yes I would set the new track to mono - would be fine until I closed and reopened RB. Then those same tracks would become stereo with the right stereo empty. I changed the setting I mentioned above and it's fine now. And I can still have anything I want in a stereo track as well. It's not Mitch's exact problem but I thought it wouldn't hurt to try it.  Josie
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Josie, most tracks (real tracks) are fine in mono ie guitar, bass etc. but the Drum and Piano tracks are recorded in stereo, so they have a nice 'spread' to them already. It's a shame to lose the right track of a stereo drum / piano track. And I record my live lap steel tracks in stereo using a POD XT into Real Band. Again, the spread is nice. It's most annoying to lose these live tracks. I have to reperform them (arrgghhh)
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Mitch, I get what you are saying. That inital track setting in prefs doesn't force anything mono unless you want it to be. I think it just effects how RB opens. I just got lucky that it made all my tracks finally stay as I had them. I use stereo tracks too so my mixes are a combination. If I were you I'd call support - they are friendly and really great at figuring these things out. Hope you get it all sorted soon and back to having fun. Josie
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Yeah, I guess I will call support. I hate to 'whine' about anything in BIAB / Real Band, but when you work hard on something and you lose anything, it's a tough pill to swallow.
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Try fixing the default track to MIDI. This does mean you will need to designate your audio track type manually, but the above problem doesn't seem to happen. I have no idea why the problem occurs.
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LynB's suggestion is something I do here also, and may be why I haven't seen the issue in a long time.
If so, its a weird fix.
Very similar to Josie's fix ..
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FWIW, my default in Real Band is mono audio tracks.. always has been. Regardless if it's mono, midi.. fact remains, when I pull in a new BIAB.mgu file, Piano, Drums, Synth are all coming into RB as stereo, so not sure what the default setting is 'fixing' ? Sometimes my stereo tracks lose the right side of the track (it's ALWAYS been the RT 1/2)... but I won't know it until I open the file the next time. Does not happen while I'm working ie...I do not do something, then 'poof' there goes 1/2 the track as I'm working (right before my eyes) I can't 'catch it in the act'.
Guess I'll make a phone call to support so at least it goes on record. But it sounds like this may have been happening for quite a while eh ? Do none of you use stereo tracks ? This has happened since I began using BIAB / RealBand with 2010 version.. just haven't 'whined' about it till now ;-)
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I use stereo tracks a lot, and like I said I haven't seen this issue for a long time.
Years.
And when I did, unlike you, I saw it in the middle of a session, not when opening.
Try using MIDI or stereo as default track type and see if it goes away. Default is just the track type that is used for blank tracks.
Maybe the issue is happening when a stereo track is imported to a mono track type .. worth 'testing' in the mean time.
And you shouldn't "lose everthing" if you took the time to try the 'File - Open backup' I mentioned a few times now.
Last edited by rharv; 01/15/12 06:47 AM.
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Like Bob I haven't seen that behavior for quite some time either.
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