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Unfamiliar w/this, trying to get there.....my interest is in recording only. A few questions:

- Are "sets" comparable to "stems?"
- What is/isn't edit-able in "sets?" For ex. can I replace a piano solo with another instrument, and/or delete it altogether?
- How easy/hard is it to use or integrate with a DAW?

Appreciate any info

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Welcome.

I don't recognize the terms sets or stems. But yes, you can mute, delete or (to some extent) change any track. If there is a certain combination (called a Style in BIAB), you can change it and save it under another name. You can also create your own styles.

The Melody and Soloist tracks are for adding your own MIDI melodies and harmonies. The other tracks can be MIDI or audio (called RealTracks). You can edit the MIDI inthose tracks and Freeze the track so it isn't overwritten each time the song is regenerated.

These are just a few points; feel free to ask more specific questions.

BIAB works great with a DAW. You can easily drag tracks into a DAW. You can also set all tracks to flat eq, dry reverb, and center the panning prior to exporting, so these adjustments can be done in the DAW.


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Welcome to the forum Joe.

Regarding working with a DAW, Band in a box is integrated with a DAW called RealBand. It is included with any Band in a box package you purchase.

For serious multitrack recording, serious audio or midi editing, using stems (they are called Scraps in RealBand), you will find more satisfaction concentrating on the RealBand program.

Band in a box is better at creating your song structure, chord progression, using stops, rests and holds or just quickly creating a backing track.

Many users start their song project in Band in a box then move the project into RealBand for the more complex editing, adding additional tracks and adding effects.

Some users finish their entire project in RealBand while others who are experienced with another DAW, mix and finish their project in that DAW. RealBand and Band in a Box can save and export the individual files as WAV files that work with any DAW.

Hope that helps but as Matt stated, feel free to bring any specific questions that you have here to the forum. Someone likely has already encountered the same situation and will jump in and help out.


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I've noticed that Native Instruments is pushing "stems" pretty hard now. Apparently, they are open MP4 format multi-track audio files with independent bass, drums, melody and voice "stems" that can be mixed independently. Seems to be big in the DJ crowd for spontaneous mixes and mash-ups. Not sure that BIAB can handle MP4.

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Originally Posted By: joe5
Unfamiliar w/this, trying to get there.....my interest is in recording only. A few questions:

- Are "sets" comparable to "stems?"
- What is/isn't edit-able in "sets?" For ex. can I replace a piano solo with another instrument, and/or delete it altogether?
- How easy/hard is it to use or integrate with a DAW?

Appreciate any info


1. no, well kinda...
2. I don't know... uhhh yeah.
3. real easy

regarding one and two... working with BB is more like jamming with friends than anything I can use to describe it. You can edit the chords and styles, and just about everything else. If you want to change something, you can. If you want to replace the bass with a different bass or the guitars with piano you can do that too. And yes, you can delete or mute.

Three... the cool thing is you can export the waves BB creates as wave files and import them into your favorite DAW.... so in that respect, yeah, I guess you can say they are comparable to stems.

But it gets better..... Let me describe how I work with this to create the music I write and produce.... have a listen to the songs on my music site to hear what I do.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=443134&content=music

I, and many others here, compose and write in BB. I get the song exactly like I want and then save it and close BB. I reopen the song in Real Band and it renders the tracks to the song I just created in BB as waves. Using RB's unique ability to render additional tracks, I add more tracks to the project. These could be piano solo tracks or mandolin tracks and save them all as well. Now, I export them from RB and import then into Sonar, the DAW I use. That's where I add my live guitar and piano and mandolin as well as all the vocals in the project. Final mixing and polishing gets done there and the audio editing if required also gets done in Sonar.

In addition.... although I don't use it this way..... BB will open in most DAW's as a VST so you can work right in the DAW from the start. It's possible to simply drag and drop the tracks as needed.

Hope this helps.

Listen to some of the music people are producing using BB/RB and their DAW..... it's quite an amazing tool.

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Thanks very much for the replies. I didn't realize RB was a DAW. I wish they'd just say that on the site. smile I'm sure I'll have more questions....this could be a huge help to me though. I was NOT looking forward to having to create percussion, rhythm sections (etc etc) note by note on a synth. This could be a huge help to get past that hurdle.

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Originally Posted By: joe5
Thanks very much for the replies. I didn't realize RB was a DAW. I wish they'd just say that on the site. smile I'm sure I'll have more questions....this could be a huge help to me though. I was NOT looking forward to having to create percussion, rhythm sections (etc etc) note by note on a synth. This could be a huge help to get past that hurdle.


RB is, IMHO a very basic DAW which is why I continue to use Sonar. If you don't have a DAW RB will work quite well. Like any DAW, you need to spend time with it to understand what it can and cannot do.

I absolutely detested trying to create drum tracks and even the other tracks for instruments I didn't play, using a synth. The drum tracks always sounded so dry and boring and not at all real even though I had good sounding samples. The real drum tracks in BB/RB ended all that. I haven't had to create a drum track now in a very long time and I don't miss it one bit.

A friend of mine and I were speaking last night on the phone.... catching up on the past few years. Talk got around to music and recording since he too is a musician. He was wanting to set up a studio and eventually we got talking about BB/RB. He couldn't seem to understand the concept of how BB worked and kept insisting he would need to learn how to program drum tracks and use a click track.... and I kept telling him no he didn't have to go that route.

I think he finally took my word and I invited him to come and see how it works in real time.


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Interesting....can you elaborate on it being a "very basic DAW?" What (generally, not asking for every little thing) does it lack? It will be just me and a synth and maybe vocals, so I'm wondering if it will be enough.

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Sure, it's plenty. RB has 48 tracks.

RB is surprisingly powerful for a free add-on. If I hadn't already learned other DAWs, I'm sure I would be using RB now.

There are other aspects I don't think have been brought up. As a companion to BIAB, RB can read BIAB songs directly. This is something no other DAW can do; you have to drag tracks into your DAW or render them to audio tracks first before loading into the DAW. In addition, while BIAB can regenerate a whole track, RB has a special ability to regenerate just part of a track. I'm no expert, but others here who are could add to this list of unique features.


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Originally Posted By: joe5
Interesting....can you elaborate on it being a "very basic DAW?" What (generally, not asking for every little thing) does it lack? It will be just me and a synth and maybe vocals, so I'm wondering if it will be enough.


Like any tool, one must learn how to use it and it should have a good work flow, as well as ease of use.

Perhaps I'm about to display my total ignorance of this tool....

First.... every DAW has advantages and disadvantages when compared side by side with other DAW's. One does this extremely well while not doing that, but the competitor does THAT well while not excelling at this. That's why there are so many good ones on the market,and they all have their fans and critics.

I have looked at the functionality and how the workflow is in RB by using it, and there were some aspects of audio editing.... when, for example, I have to split an audio track and replace a section with something copied from another place in the song. I have found this to be difficult at best. I was also looking to use RB in a project as the DAW and wanted to add envelopes for precise audio control. I couldn't seem to get the same level of precision as I do in Sonar. I call it surgical precision. Placing a node in between two notes in quick succession. I also believe I have seen where some VST's have issues running properly in RB. I forget exactly what I was wanting to do.... but I ran into a brick wall and could not figure out how to do what it was I needed at the time. I RTFM and couldn't find the answer there. Being in a project, I simply moved the tracks to Sonar and finished it there.

Although, I'm sure there's folks here who know how to do all that without major difficulty. Like I said, maybe I haven't given it a fair chance. However, I have tried to use it and found it to be less than accommodating to the way I like to work. I know Sonar fairly well and doing anything that needs to be done is generally a very simple and quick matter. Perhaps RB is the same way and I would just need to spend more time with it.

HOWEVER.... what RB lacks in total functionality as a full fledged DAW, comparable to the Sonar's and PT's of the world..... it excels in being able to generate Real Tracks for my BB songs. Nothing else can do that. I know of NO DAW that can do that.... so that's where Real Band shines. And that's how it serves in my studio/songwriting process. So while I'm not a fan of it's DAW capabilities, I am a huge fan of it's track generation abilities.


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Joe, If you do not have a DAW and/or never used a DAW RealBand is all you need.

Many of us have been using DAWs for years before RB came into existence thus we are very familiar with them. Most of us do not use RB or use it as a second DAW. That is use RB for what it is excels in them move the project over to another DAW.

Then many others here only use RB. The bottom line is you can not tell what DAW, if any, was used as you listen to a CD, MP3 or record.

My advice is if you don't already use a DAW learn RB, and I mean learn everything about it. You just might find that it does everything you need, as many here have found.

Good luck.

Ps - I should add that those of us using other DAWs started out with a DAW similar to or much less powerful than RB. The things that RB can do was not available to the high priced DAWs we used 10 years ago! Also what you can do in RB today would cost thousands of dollars to do just 20-25 years ago!


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A DAW is an extremely important part of music production! Its features, functions and ease of use are critical to the process of making music. If you do not currently use a DAW I would strongly recommend checking out other DAWs in addition to Realband. RB is included with BIAB so some folks here will go on and on about it being free but if it slows you down or restricts you that is NOT free! They also like to point out no other DAW can generate RealTracks..well of course not as that is a proprietary format! Other than that single feature (generating RealTracks) they are hard-pressed to give a reason to use RB! Try other DAWs and choose based on what works for your process! If you own BIAB you can always use RB for generating RealTracks to use with another DAW!

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Appreciate the replies! Frankly I'm not at a point of being ready to record anyway, so this is simply info gathering for me right now. I'm near certain I will want to use BIAB regardless of what DAW I use though, so I might pull the trigger anyway and tinker with it...then when I get a studio set up I will be that much farther along with that aspect.

As for whether RB is good enough as a DAW, who knows. The only other DAW I've even looked at was Reaper, because people were telling me it's so easy to use...but my initial impression was quite different. But again it was just a first look and I didn't really use it enough to be sure. I just hope there are others which are easier!

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Originally Posted By: joe5
Appreciate the replies! Frankly I'm not at a point of being ready to record anyway, so this is simply info gathering for me right now. I'm near certain I will want to use BIAB regardless of what DAW I use though, so I might pull the trigger anyway and tinker with it...then when I get a studio set up I will be that much farther along with that aspect.

As for whether RB is good enough as a DAW, who knows. The only other DAW I've even looked at was Reaper, because people were telling me it's so easy to use...but my initial impression was quite different. But again it was just a first look and I didn't really use it enough to be sure. I just hope there are others which are easier!



Just to be perfectly clear...my comments above were about RealBand and whether or not you should use it or another DAW. If you are wondering whether or not to purchase BIAB there is no question...BUY IT! Whether you wanna use it for live backing tracks, near-demo-quality recordings, songwriting, learning or whatever you will not find anything even close to how good it is when you are using RealTracks! Without RealTracks I would not be using it but with RealTracks it is Amazing!

Two tips...1) wait for the end of year sale if you can and 2) buy the option with the full set of RealTracks.

And then you can decide later on if RealBand is for you.

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"Other than that single feature (generating RealTracks) they are hard-pressed to give a reason to use RB! "

Not really hard-pressed at all. For instance;

You can enter chord progressions the same as BIAB
It works extremely well with midi
and it has thousands of midi styles
midi styles and be replaced with RealTracks and Real Styles
It has access to thousands of Real Styles (different from RealTracks)
It works with User Tracks
It's integration with the new Stylemaker
The Multiriff generation feature - it is uniquely different from generation and regeneration
It's integration with the Audio Chord Wizard
The new 2016 feature 'Record a click track'
The Karaoke lyrics window and the .kar format
The ability to save .XML files
The guitar tab window
The piano window
The notation window
The performance artists files
Some of the above features are geared toward teaching or learning to play an instrument, composing and are bypassed by those who use RB for backing tracks or songwriting and arranging.

RealBand is not a one trick pony that it's only unique feature is RealTrack generation. Real Styles and Midi styles are valuable resources in of themselves. No other DAW can integrate with BIAB, RealTracks, midi styles, RealStyles and midi styles the Way RB can.


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The fact remains that its ONLY strengths are in its relation to the flagship product. I cannot think of a single DAW feature that RB does better than real DAWs. Further I honestly cannot imagine anyone choosing it as their DAW without those PG features. All I'm trying to say is, as a tool in the chain or even as a simple DAW substitute, it may serve just fine. But many of the hardcore PG fans love to talk about it as if it is a serious DAW contender and I just find that to be far from the truth.

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Originally Posted By: joe5
The only other DAW I've even looked at was Reaper, because people were telling me it's so easy to use...but my initial impression was quite different. But again it was just a first look and I didn't really use it enough to be sure. I just hope there are others which are easier!


There will be a learning curve for any good DAW. It's not something you feel comfortable with in a couple of days or even weeks (at least it wasn't for me). I've been using Reaper for 3 or 4 years and am pretty comfortable with it, although even now there are many features I haven't even explored.

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Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn
you will not find anything even close to how good it is when you are using RealTracks! Without RealTracks I would not be using it but with RealTracks it is Amazing!

Two tips...1) wait for the end of year sale if you can and 2) buy the option with the full set of RealTracks.
Thanks, but those versions are likely out of my price range. I'll have to get by with the lesser RTs and/or wing it with MIDI. smile


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"Other than that single feature (generating RealTracks) they are hard-pressed to give a reason to use RB! "

Not really hard-pressed at all. For instance;
Many of the things you mention are either BIAB features, not RB, or are things pretty much all DAWs have, near as I can tell...PS I give up, what are "real styles?" I didn't see it mentioned on the site anywhere.

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"Many of the things you mention are either BIAB features, not RB, or are things pretty much all DAWs have, near as I can tell...PS I give up, what are "real styles?" I didn't see it mentioned on the site anywhere."

No. They are RB features. You do not have to open BIAB or a VST to use them. They are RB features resulting from direct integration with BIAB and they are unique from other DAW's in that respect.

Follow JohnJohnJohn's comments. He started with generating tracks being the only feature to use RB. That prompted my response.


JohnJohnJohn responded to my post with "The fact remains that its ONLY strengths are in its relation to the flagship product." which is similar to your remarks.

I admit that I find that to be a bit of an odd criticism. RB is a DAW designed to integrate and work in close relation with a flagship product. Every BIAB feature you find in RB is a RB feature by design.

Why is it odd? Because if you browse through the BIAB wishlist, you will find requests for RB DAW features, RB generating abilities, multiriff and a host of other RB features to be integrated into BIAB when all of these things already exist in RB.

There is a laundry list of reasons given not to use RB and to each his own. I have Studio One v3 Pro and paid quite a bit of money for but only fire it up when I have need to mix with the Faderport Controller. It is designed to work seamlessly with my Presonus interfaces and faderport but I find more value to my workflow using the 'only strengths' of RB's integration with BIAB features.

Regarding RealStyles. RealStyles are RealTrack, or RealTrack/midi combos, or RealTrack/midi/Supermidi combos, Realtrack/loops/usertrack combos put together by PGMusic in combos of instrument and tracks to play in a genre or fashion of music so we, the end user, do not have to create our own.

The newly released XTRA Styles are simply RealStyles that use some of the latest available RealTracks. But according to a PGMusic post, around 300 manhours went into creating 164 tracks. My BIAB/RB has over 4900 style combos. That is thousands of man hours to put together. RealStyles are a big time saver when we create accompaniment tracks.

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Originally Posted By: joe5
Appreciate the replies! Frankly I'm not at a point of being ready to record anyway, so this is simply info gathering for me right now. I'm near certain I will want to use BIAB regardless of what DAW I use though, so I might pull the trigger anyway and tinker with it...then when I get a studio set up I will be that much farther along with that aspect.

As for whether RB is good enough as a DAW, who knows. The only other DAW I've even looked at was Reaper, because people were telling me it's so easy to use...but my initial impression was quite different. But again it was just a first look and I didn't really use it enough to be sure. I just hope there are others which are easier!





When you do get ready..... here's what you need.

A computer to run the software ... preferably a dedicated machine as opposed to general duty shared machine...

A good interface that uses ASIO and connects with USB to the computer.

BB&RB of course.

Don't forget the mics, cables, speakers, headphones, other software to make the music better.... VST's and stuff....

Also, have a look at Cakewalk's Music Creator 7. I've been a long time CW user. Music Creator (MC) in it's various versions is on my computer.... MC 4,5,& 6 as well as Sonar X1e. MC is also sold by PG music for $50 IIRC, and if you check the Cakewalk store periodically, you can find it on sale from time to time for $20. But even at it's full MSRP of $50 it's well worth every penny. It's a fully capable DAW that has everything you will need to do superb music production without the complexity and all the extra bells and whistles of the really expensive flagship models of DAWs.

Before you buy a DAW, go to the various DAW software company websites and read what the users are talking about and listen to the music they are producing on that DAW. Some DAW's are better suited to certain types of music due to their included features and functions. Educate yourself so you can buy the best DAW for you.

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You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.

Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!

The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!

Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!

With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

  • The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
  • Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
  • Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
  • Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
  • Playable RealTracks Set 4
  • RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
  • SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
  • 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.

Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:

  • 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
  • Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
  • Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
  • RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe

Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!

New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!

Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!

We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!

If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!

Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!

Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!

We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!

If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!

Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins

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