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For whatever reason Realband stop doing it's thing last night. I can't get it fixed.
It's gone from "this is annoying" to "ok, I seriously need to get to get some work done, and this is chewing up my weekend!"
So does anyone have any recommendations of a program with a Free Trial that may even be a long term solution for me? As I said, I would like a free trial to see if I like it; but it also has to be able to do midi with VSTi and have the ability to import wav and .mp3 files in session format.
Also, something that has a fairly easy learning curve. I am familiar with Realband, Adobe Audition, and pro-tools...so I'm not a TOTAL newbie. Just prefer not to have to over thing the simple things.
I'm ALL ears on this! Thanks so much in advance on this.
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Besides BiaB, there's nothing that replaces RealBand, as RealBand allows Styles and RealTracks to be loaded.
Reaper might work if you just want a DAW.
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Try renaming the Realband settings files. This will force RB to create new versions of the files when it restarts. There are two files found in the \Realband directory. These are... 1) RB.CFG (rename it to RB.CFG.OLD) 2) Realband.ini (rename it to Realband.ini.old) Once the files are renamed, start Realband. Renaming effectively delete the files from Realband's gaze but means that it's always possible to get the old files back if needed. Regards, Noel
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Thanks for the suggestion Noel. I did both of those and it's still locking up right after the "initializing accompaniment function" screen.
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Locking up usually means that it is not being run in "Run as administrator mode". Just as a test, rename/delete the above files and right-click on the shortcut and select "Run as administrator". Actually, prior to running Realband after renaming the above files, download and manually install the latest build. Maybe this will fix whatever glitch has occurred by overwriting the main program components with working files. http://www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htmRegards, Noel
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Also,
If I remember correctly, when I first started Realband 2018, it locked up on me. After a second startup, though, it worked.
(I know that there was a locking up issue that occurred with Realband build 1, too.)
If you manage to get into Realband, change the audio driver to MME. That is more stable when problem solving.
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For Midi and VSTi's I suggest Ableton Live. I have a Lite version 9 that came with a piece of gear. Went to the site and it was automatically upgraded to version 10.
It has a 30 day trial and is a free download.
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Will do. Do I have to do each of the updates, or can I do just the last/most current one?
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Just use the latest.
Each update is built on the previous one so installing the latest installs all previous ones, too.
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For Midi and VSTi's I suggest Ableton Live. I have a Lite version 9 that came with a piece of gear. Went to the site and it was automatically upgraded to version 10.
It has a 30 day trial and is a free download. Awesome! Thanks Charlie. I've heard good things about Ableton.
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Just use the latest.
Each update is built on the previous one so installing the latest installs all previous ones, too. Thanks Noel!
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The update did the trick! THANK YOU NOEL!!!!!! 
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Excellent. Sometimes if a program shuts down without properly exiting the components that drive it, a corrupted file can be created. It sounds like this is what might have happened. Regards, Noel
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Do yourself a favor and download and start learning to use REAPER. BIAB and REAPER and a perfect combination. Use REAPER as long as you want and it won't cost a dime, until you realize how wonderful it is and you send in the $60 for a license.
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+++ Tracktion 6 +++ is a free, full fledged DAW that works on Linux, Mac and Windows operating systems. It differs from most DAWs by doing everything in one window.
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Do yourself a favor and download and start learning to use REAPER. Reaper isn't going to help him replace what BIAB does. I use Real Band and Pro Tools. Nothing that doesn't write backing tracks can replace Real Band. A DAW is a DAW. It depends on what you became familiar with. Reaper, Samplitude, Sonar, Ableton, CuBase, Logic, and for the OLD guys, Texture.... they all do what they do. Mix tracks. Just because it's 60 bucks doesn't make it a value unless 60 bucks is all the money you can afford to spend. I had no problem playing for Pro Tools. Once you learn it, it is MARVELOUS. That being said, once I learned it (and by no means to expert levels), I pretty much let it sit now. I write and rough mix in Real Band, then send it to Rog to add his parts, mix and master. So I guess Rog is my DAW. My Designated Augmentation Workman! I gotta ask this JUST because how often I read threads about how cheap something is made me curious. When you buy tools for your day job, is the #1 consideration how cheap something is? Nobody here is struggling to pay rent and buy food, are they? And I am not asking to be a condescending jerk. When I decided to spend $600 for Pro Tools, it called for some planning and concessions. Especially when you consider that it was for a home studio and I no longer play. Your DAW is as important as your guitar or your keyboard if you are a professional. I'd never play a gig with a toy keyboard from Toys'R'Us. Would you? I am just SO curious why this " this is great because it's cheap" thing keeps resurfacing. I get that you are going to defend what you use, but remember you use it because you don't want to bother learning anything new even if it may be more fully featured. Studios use Pro Tools for a reason.
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HearToLearn,
You didn't do yourself any favors.
You specifically asked "I Hate To Ask This But I Need A Real Band Replacement"
There is no RealBand replacement, but that's not what you really wanted at all.
Why didn't you ask "Please help me get RealBand working"?
Boy, we're sure lucky to have Noel here, and also RHarv (who had already helped you in the RealBand forum on your same problem).
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Do yourself a favor and download and start learning to use REAPER. Reaper isn't going to help him replace what BIAB does. You have taken that sentence out of context. Did you miss very next sentence? BIAB and REAPER are a perfect combination. Honestly I am always amazed when folks make recommendations to someone struggling with Realband that they continue to work with it. It's issues and limitations as a "DAW" are historically acknowledged on the forum. Eddie, with all due respect, have you not been one of he loudest voices pointing out issues with RB over the years? I try to keep negative comments regarding RealBand to a minimum. It is what it is and that is what it is. However, when an individual is looking for solid DAW I have no hesitation to provide alternate recommendations. OK, sorry if I am stirring the pot here. I just felt a bit feisty tonight. 
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Concur with Jim
Tracktion 6 is a full featured DAW and IT IS FREE it can;t hurt to have it on hand
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Why didn't you ask "Please help me get RealBand working"? Trev, My apologies. I take full responsibility for diverting this thread off on a tangent. Up until my entry, this was a genuine request to find something that could (temporarily, at least) substitute for Realband. Unfortunately, I didn't see the post in the Realband forum until after all my comments here. Had I seen that, I would have offered my suggestions over there. Hope all is going good for you so far in the New Year! Noel
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