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So I'm going to be taking guitar lessons over the summer and I'm looking for a guitar. I've pretty much narrowed it down but I was wondering if you all could help.
I'm in the market for a flamenco style guitar that is not made in China. After listening to a bunch of Paco de Lucia's music, I wanted to learn to play flamenco guitar. Like I said, I've have mostly likely figured out that the one, but I don't know much of the nylon guitar brands or any of guitar brands beyond Fender, PRS, Gibson, Epiphone, Taylor, ect.
P.S. Made in China also referees to any guitar made in a country that has quality control issues. Yes, this is Islansoul, I just decided to change my display name.
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I don't know much about flamenco style guitars. I googled flamenco guitars for sale and found quite a few of them from different manufacturers. Also google flamenco guitars made in spain and flamenco guitars made in mexico. If price is no object you may want to check out some guitar luthiers as you will know exactly where they are being made.
Good luck.
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Like any instrument, choosing a guitar is subjective so any musician will have their favorite brand or model. As Mario suggested I suggest looking at guitar brands and models that are known for their nylon string guitars. While Gibson, Martin and Fender are the best known and copied American brands their strength is steel string guitars, not nylon string guitars so for that reason alone I would favor other brands. Also, Flamenco guitars differ from "standard" classical guitars by having a thinner top and less internal bracing so the list of manufacturers is likely reduced even more. Do an internet search for the names of current and popular flamenco guitar players. +++ HERE +++ is a good starting point. Visit their websites to see if you can find what guitar brands and models they endorse. Look at their publicity photographs to see if you can figure out what brand guitar they are holding in the photos. See if any of them have any namesake guitar lines.
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My 2 cents (may be all it's worth).
I own a ORTEGA - Striped Suite CE nylon guitar. To be honest I know very little about nylon guitars so I relied on my local guitar shop to lead me in the right direction.
I mostly wanted mine for recording that Willie Nelson style of playing. This is what they recommended and I do love it.
Hope that helps some?
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Go down to your favourite music/guitar shop and try them all. If you are worried about quality control don't buy online. There are some really good guitars from Yamaha, Ortega Alhambra etc. in the reasonable price area, and if your budget is unlimited you can get one made to your spec.
Ideally if you are just starting out, forget the manufacturer, go for the one that suits your hand size, and has the right feel. All solid wood are the best, but a solid sound board and laminated sides and back are fine, and cheaper. Spruce or Cedar soundboards sound different, as do Rosewood, Mahogany, Sicamore sides and back. Don't go for the trditional flamenco tuning pegs, they are a pain to tune, and don't limit yourself to a flamenco guitar, a classical will do the job just as well. In the end it is the one that appeals to you best wich will be the best for you, regardless of the name or price. I once picked up a beaut for under $100 which played like a dream and sounded ok. Take your time and remember you are buying an instrument to learn on so it should be easy for you to play it rather than the "sound", although if it's loud it is probably ok.
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Sinbad brings up a good point in this will be your first flamingo guitar. Personally I would look for an inexpensive classical guitar and not worry about point of origin. There are a number of inexpensive classical guitar available, for instance: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=classical+guitar+cheap&hvadid=77859232598454&hvbmt=bb&hvdev=c&hvqmt=b&tag=mh0b-20&ref=pd_sl_95cr8848kx_bIf you continue your learning journey you then may look at a real flamingo guitar and consider its point of origin. YMMV Note that I speak from experience. I have taught guitar from the late 1960s. I have seen 100s of people and/or parents spend a ton of money on guitars and amps only to have the student quit. They quit for a number of reasons like "I've taken 5 lessons and I'm not a rock star yet", or "I didn't know I had to cut my nails", or "I didn't think it would be this hard", or "I don't have the time to practice" etc.
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Go down to your favourite music/guitar shop and try them all. If you are worried about quality control don't buy online. There are some really good guitars from Yamaha, Ortega Alhambra etc. in the reasonable price area, and if your budget is unlimited you can get one made to your spec.
Ideally if you are just starting out, forget the manufacturer, go for the one that suits your hand size, and has the right feel. All solid wood are the best, but a solid sound board and laminated sides and back are fine, and cheaper. Spruce or Cedar soundboards sound different, as do Rosewood, Mahogany, Sicamore sides and back. Don't go for the trditional flamenco tuning pegs, they are a pain to tune, and don't limit yourself to a flamenco guitar, a classical will do the job just as well. In the end it is the one that appeals to you best wich will be the best for you, regardless of the name or price. I once picked up a beaut for under $100 which played like a dream and sounded ok. Take your time and remember you are buying an instrument to learn on so it should be easy for you to play it rather than the "sound", although if it's loud it is probably ok. I have been looking at the Alhambra 3f because of the fact that the company claims they make it in Spain. I don't have an unlimited budget, I just want a quailty guitar that will last for years.
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Sinbad brings up a good point in this will be your first flamingo guitar. Personally I would look for an inexpensive classical guitar and not worry about point of origin. There are a number of inexpensive classical guitar available, for instance: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=classical+guitar+cheap&hvadid=77859232598454&hvbmt=bb&hvdev=c&hvqmt=b&tag=mh0b-20&ref=pd_sl_95cr8848kx_bIf you continue your learning journey you then may look at a real flamingo guitar and consider its point of origin. YMMV Note that I speak from experience. I have taught guitar from the late 1960s. I have seen 100s of people and/or parents spend a ton of money on guitars and amps only to have the student quit. They quit for a number of reasons like "I've taken 5 lessons and I'm not a rock star yet", or "I didn't know I had to cut my nails", or "I didn't think it would be this hard", or "I don't have the time to practice" etc. Thanks for the input. I am looking for a flamenco guitar because it is different then a traditional classical guitar. The flamenco guitar has a lower action than a classical guitar to give that buzz sound for flamenco and has a "pick" guard to allow player to make percussion sounds . It's much more than just a nylon guitar.
Last edited by Island Soul; 04/13/19 03:20 AM.
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Go down to your favourite music/guitar shop and try them all. If you are worried about quality control don't buy online. There are some really good guitars from Yamaha, Ortega Alhambra etc. in the reasonable price area, and if your budget is unlimited you can get one made to your spec.
Ideally if you are just starting out, forget the manufacturer, go for the one that suits your hand size, and has the right feel. All solid wood are the best, but a solid sound board and laminated sides and back are fine, and cheaper. Spruce or Cedar soundboards sound different, as do Rosewood, Mahogany, Sicamore sides and back. Don't go for the trditional flamenco tuning pegs, they are a pain to tune, and don't limit yourself to a flamenco guitar, a classical will do the job just as well. In the end it is the one that appeals to you best wich will be the best for you, regardless of the name or price. I once picked up a beaut for under $100 which played like a dream and sounded ok. Take your time and remember you are buying an instrument to learn on so it should be easy for you to play it rather than the "sound", although if it's loud it is probably ok. I only know four chords after taking a few lessons with the same teacher who teaches steel pan. I know E, Am, C and G.
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You will have to add F to that if you want to play flamenco.
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