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Been over three weeks. He said "it's time for me to finally leave" and he did. It was a quite exit, not like others who come to a boil and then explode. So I am glad I let him know how much I appreciated his input while he was with us. He sure could stir the pot at times and was a creative whirlwind. Many times I didn't really know what he was talking about, but then I would see some of his handy work and had to get me some. But I get it, when it ain't fun anymore it is time to leave. Maybe he just needed a rest, or maybe we will see him again over in other forums. Never the less, I didn't want his absence to go unnoticed.
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What!, no one? Yaaa right, like you don't know who I am talking about... 
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Sorry, I was totally confused. I thought that either someone hacked your forum account or you had passed away and someone was trying to tell us about it.
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I'm pretty new here (a little more than three weeks), so I guess I just missed this legendary longtime forum user.
Care to fill a young greenhorn in on this mythical man?
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Sorry, I was totally confused. I thought that either someone hacked your forum account or you had passed away and someone was trying to tell us about it. Wow, Steve, sorry, I never thought of that but I can see what you mean. 
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I'm pretty new here (a little more than three weeks), so I guess I just missed this legendary longtime forum user.
Care to fill a young greenhorn in on this mythical man? I would have though the Management at PG would have given you guys a holiday. Just jokin,  ...but, you didn't notice it has gotten a bit quieter here in the forum in the past three weeks? Like someone turned the volume down. 
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The good ones often get burned out here. They care. They try to help PGM. They help many of us customers. They hope. But they finally get tired of the same old story.
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I'm disappointed too, both for him and us. He worked tirelessly, kept people on their toes, and boy could he ever deliver the goods.
Hopefully he'll watch an Arnie movie and announce "I'll be back..." He would certainly be welcomed, big time.
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I got banned from Weight Watchers for dropping a bag of M&Ms on the floor.
It was the best game of Hungry Hippos I've ever seen!
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Hey guys I just ran into him over in another of my haunts on the web. Looks like he is doing well and apparently has some new project work going with a new website to hawk his wares.
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Yep. 
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Hey guys I just ran into him over in another of my haunts on the web. Looks like he is doing well and apparently has some new project work going with a new website to hawk his wares. Nuts, I was hoping that he was working on his version of BiaB. His version using PGMusic's styles would be a killer combination.
I got banned from Weight Watchers for dropping a bag of M&Ms on the floor.
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I really hope he comes back. Kinda sad to admit but I've gotten far better product support from him than any official source.
One time I had my song perfect and frozen but I wanted to change the guitar solo from standard to DI so I could apply my own fx. The problem was to do this would mean unfreezing and losing my solo! I didn't wanna do that and spend hours futzing around in Realband trying to get it back!
No one here had any clue as to how this might be done. But he gave me a simple step-by-step procedure for moving RealTrack folders around (temporarily) and that totally worked to save my solo!
I never understood how he knew all that stuff but I sure did appreciate that he did and that he was willing to share it with the rest if us!
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Guys, please... do not sing a mourning song. Mr.Pipeline is probably taking a break... as many people in this strange time. I had seen that new updates (715+717) had many enhancements and fixes for the plugin. I am sure Pipeline is aware of it and somewhat satisfied that work is being done on the plug. Just recharging batteries. He helped me personally on several tricky occasions. Let the man take (unpaid) vacation from all of us! I have myself not posted anything on the forum for weeks. Partially because of shock and partially because of many other things that I had to take care of, which were not on my normal daily schedule. I am thinking... the end of the year will bring some financial challenges to a lot of people. Usually when economy dips, businesses strive hard to make a sale. Commonly it is expressed as a product price drop or "other" benefits. I can not complain about the price, to me, BIAB is worth every penny, but I think it is perfect time for PG to bring some innovations and long asked features to the table to keep most followers in the loop, including Pipeline Thankfully PG team can work remotely, and I am happy for them!
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Is the forum now on some kind of double secret probation? Have I gone back to 50's high school? Yea I know, as did most here, who you mean and yes he contributes(ed) a lot of really excellent stuff. But after almost 60 years in work force - 21 in the service and the rest in industry here's what I've learned: NO ONE is indispensable.
No offense to him but a lot of us were using BIAB, some even productively if you can believe that, long before he was here and most of us will continue to do so. Obviously it would be better with him here, contributing, but nonetheless we will plod along in our ignorant and Neanderthal ways in any case. Of course, it would also be better if Mac and many others were here, but they are also not here and haven't been for many years.
If and when he comes up with a better mousetrap I’ll be first in line to buy it - just send me the link!
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It would be great if that better mousetrap ALSO meets the current up to date WCPS (whine catalog of palladium standards) set here by more than a few, that phrase "more than a few" in modern terms seems to be equivalent to "an overwhelming majority:"
This application has to do everything I WANT (no exceptions); does it the way I THINK it should be done (in spite of not being on the design team); is 100% user configurable in all aspects (GUI and operations); is completely ERROR free on all platforms and all platform configurations; works with all other music applications and DAW's (free or licensed) in all OS’s; is fully cross platform and cross application implemented; with all bells and whistles of all other similar, and dissimilar, programs; meets all those conditions and is released for most OS’s (Win, MacOS, Linux - all flavors, Android – all flavors, iOS - all, Chrome, Free BSD, what the heck ...Fedora); is released in all major, and most minor, world languages, with full up-to-date indexed and searchable documentation in those languages - at release.
Also has a small memory footprint, is small to download, opens and begins functioning in a few milliseconds is not licensed and doesn't need to be activated and never needs web connectivity. Finally needs to be fully future proofed for all the above (OS's, platforms, standards [e.g., VST implementations, all HW and SW protocols and interfaces, even unknown but future bus protocols])
May as well discuss MSRP: since everyone in music everywhere will want this then no reason unit retail cost should be more than say ~$100 with free updates. However, not sure why any updates are needed, by definition it already does all, sees all, and knows all on release, so why would any updates ever be needed? But if God forbid an update is ever needed, for any reason, then it should be completed and released same day (it's just a few lines of code).
Heck I’ll even pay twice that much, I'll pay $200 in "then" dollars.
Larry
BTW just because no one comes to someones rescue does not necessarily mean all were clueless, might mean something else or it might mean nothing at all.
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Larry, wow, that was deep I will respond to couple of your points: "NO ONE is indispensable" I completely disagree with that statement. Talented people are, and especially the ones who offer their knowledge free of charge. Remember Sergio - User Tracks?... I wish there was several Pipeline(s) around here. And Sergio(s), who sadly I got to know after he left. Thankfully Sergio was nice beyond this forum and I was able to acquire most of his work. ---- About your "entertainment part of the show" No bashing was intended from me. This is my logic: I am guessing here, but it just might be so, that this year there will be slimmer choice of RT material due to virus situation (studio time). In my opinion, it is good opportunity to balance things by re-visiting a few "BIG" requests that many people agree on. Perhaps these BIG things will encourage folks to support PGmusic in difficult time, who otherwise would be inclined to "wait it out"... and give food for thought to someone like Pipeline
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I read an interesting response in a previous comment a little above, and completely agree with the separate response immediately above this one.
I don't believe there was any suggestion ever of any person being indispensable. If I'm wrong, please clarify and point me to the remark. I'll immediately correct/retract this statement.
However, I believe the O/P's thread was genuinely directed to identify recognition that a member has contributed significantly, and that worthiness was being identified. It would be hard, if not impossible, to argue that point in my opinion.
The suggestion of 'indispensable' was never mentioned. I don't understand how that came to be such a strong focus of that response.
(PS: Maybe our home quarantine is getting to us. Lighten up all. Bigger fish to try and all that stuff...)
Stay safe, everyone.
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we will plod along in our ignorant and Neanderthal ways in any case. Ahhh, yearning for the good old days when we ate whatever we were served and didn't talk back! 
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I completely disagree with that statement. Talented people are, and especially the ones who offer their knowledge free of charge. +1
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I completely disagree with that statement. Talented people are, and especially the ones who offer their knowledge free of charge. +1 Another +1!
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New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
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- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
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Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
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- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
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- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
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New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
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Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
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XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
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Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
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