I think malwarebytes might be the best of them, actually. When my paid subscription runs out with AVG, I may upgrade my free version of malwarebytes. It consistantly catches the REAL tough ones that get by even AVG. I don't pick up many viruses as I only really frequent forums and typical online retailers- the big ones which are fine. But every so often I have a problem and it's always malwarebytes that truly rids the system of the virus. If you have the free version of it, I highly recommend you keep it up to date frequently. It may be your best life line when trouble strikes. AVG and malwarebytes never get in my way or give me a problem even if they're running in the background, while using biab, or running it. And that includes DL'ing biab or any audio siftware. It's probably a good idea to pause VP while you install or DL anything too. There's some things you can do when you're talking an audio computer-

- Never connect it to the internet. Many feel this is the best thing to do, bringing in updates and renewals in via cd. Your computer will remain very fast, longer. Virus protection is good and all, but it slows down everything and will certainly be a major player in longer start-up times. I happen to like my audio pc's online, so I deal with the inconvenience and risk.

- If your audio pc IS online, pull the cable and turn virus protection off while you're working on audio.

- Always keep java and WMP up to date. Accept the updates when they come in. Back door viruses LOVE to get through security holes in those applications.

- Get a Mac and not worry about such things in the first place. MANY will suggest that. I can't afford a darn Mac, but I hear they're not totally free of problems- just a ton less of them.

To all of us- I wish us well. May we never get screwed while minding our own business. We just want to make some music man. Harmless enough, I think!

PS- When you're uninstalling virus protection, investigate how to FULLY uninstall it. For instance, Macfee does not fully uninstall just by doing the regular routine of uninstalling the software. I had to DL a file which really wiped it out, if I remember correctly. It may very well be the same with Norton. You uninstall the stuff like you usually do and then amazingly, it continues to nag you like crazy. That's why most of the software is really like an imbedded virus unto itself. So just investigate at the appropriate forums how to fully uninstall the virus protection you're currently using. It will probably surprise you.

Dan