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#143945 12/29/11 08:42 AM
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Excuse my ignorance, but what's the difference between the two? Oh, I have both and plan to get the 2012 upgrade (from 2010) but I have yet to use RealBand.

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rokq,

Have a look at the Realband videos (under the Support link at the top of the web page). That will help you see the difference. Realband is essentially a DAW with the added ability that it can create arrangements just like BIAB.

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If you never plan on recording 'live' instruments, then you probably do not need Real Band. RB has many features, but the main one is for recording yourself / others playing real instruments or singing etc..

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You could duplicate Real Band with two separate apps, a DAW/MIDI sequencer and BiaB. Some like myself prefer to have the apps separate (I use BiaB, Power Tracks Pro Audio, Master Tracks Pro and Encore), and some prefer to have them combined.

Real Band combines many of the features of both Band-in-a-Box and Power Tracks Pro Audio.

There is no right or wrong way to do it, it's entirely up to the musician's personal preference.

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For my purposes, RealBand allows me to make song arrangements that are not limited to the 5 main instruments of BIAB. So I can have 3 guitars, pedal steel, piano, strings, drums, bass, fiddle, etc. up to the limit of RB (I think 48 tracks). I can then cut and paste sections, delete sections or move sections of each instrument pretty much at will. Very useful in my opinion for really getting the most out of the many Realtracks and midi sounds that come with it.
I use BIAB for building the basic structure of the song and often BIAB is adequate for a given arrangement so I don't use RB on all songs, but it sure is nice to have once you learn how to use it.
Good luck.

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))) You could duplicate Real Band with two separate apps, a DAW/MIDI sequencer and BiaB.

This is not correct. There are useful features found in RealBand that are not found in BiaB or a DAW.

An example is the MultiRiff feature (introduced in 2012).

Highlight a section of a track, choose multiriff, and you get to see a menu dialog of possible riffs that would work over that section using the chosen RealTracks. All the riffs are different, no duplicates. Audition them within the menu dialog, until you find the one that works best, and then insert them into your composition.

For example, you can listen to a bunch of different pedal steel riffs, until you find the one that works best with your song.
Or add 3 strumming guitar parts, all different, so that it makes a fat sound.

You can see the MultiRiff feature in action in the RealBand 2012 video... http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.demos.htm


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[quote}Highlight a section of a track, choose multiriff, and you get to see a menu dialog of possible riffs that would work over that section using the chosen RealTracks. All the riffs are different, no duplicates. Audition them within the menu dialog, until you find the one that works best, and then insert them into your composition.




Now THIS makes me want to run home right now and load it up. How many times have I generated as many as 8 solos and then cut and pasted chunks together.

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Another example is that RealBand, alone among DAWs, transfers chord info directly from BIAB files, overcoming this severe limitation of the MIDI standard.


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))) An example is the MultiRiff feature (introduced in 2012). Highlight a section of a track, choose multiriff, and you get to see a menu dialog of possible riffs that would work over that section using the chosen RealTracks. All the riffs are different, no duplicates. Audition them within the menu dialog, until you find the one that works best, and then insert them into your composition.



Yes! fantastic and useful feature, even for guitarist and educators, it come as a great resource to get stimulant ideas for songs, backing tracks and compositions. Also it is time saving as it make easier to get a suitable riffs on your taste. I was amazed with MultiRiff in RealBand!

I think RealBand is really a unique tool by combining cool DAW features and BiaB power in one pack.


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NOTE about the Multi-riff selector... this is a GREAT new feature! ...

...but if your song has any tempo changes in it, the hightlighted section will regenerate but a portion of the wave form after the regen'd section will be erased. Sure hope this gets fixed ASAP.

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Right Mitch, That does happen with certain tempo changes in a song, and will be fixed in the next free patch build. In the meantime, if you choose a blank track to work with (or have a song that doesn't have those tempo changes prior to the point of insertion), the issue won't happen.


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Great Peter. Yes, that is the work around for now... I use a blank track for any/all regen stuff on tunes with tempo changes. A lot of my tunes only have ritard endings, so the tempo change is after the point of insertion, but still the wave form gets erased.

It IS a great time saver and wonderful new feature !

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"if you choose a blank track to work with "
Thanks, good to know.


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Thanks all. I actually plan to get into BIAB and RealTracks (plus actually read the manual!) more in 2012!!

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