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Just in case you are unaware of the dangers of storing your password data in your computers web browser, here is a step by step procedure to view the password beneath the asterisks. Perhaps in this situation, "asterisks" would better written as "asteRISKS". ☺ http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-5752...r-web-browser/
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Good info. Here is a website that tells you how secure your passowrd is and how long it would take a hacker to crack it...very interesting!
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Thought you might find this interesting: I have several password protected pdf files on my network which we long ago purchased and no one recalls the open password. So, I have had three machines running for two days to breck the code via brute force. Already eliminated password lengths of 1 – 6 for all combinations of A..Z, a..z, 0..9. Can run passwords at ~40,000 p/s (across one i7 and two old P4s) but when I hit length of 7, it will take ~ 6 months. Now here is what is really scary, On another file, useing the dictionary option instead of “brute-force”, it found my personnal seven digit password in 5 secs. So I am now on a mission to revise my personal password to some crazy ass combination of upper lower characters and numbers... 
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Ouch...scary...I need to keep you away from my machine!
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Password security is a total pia but it must be done. The best way I've read about is the use of a password manager program. That program is on your computer or mobile device like a thumb drive or smart phone so how do you secure it? By encrypting it with a very robust password. You only need to remember that one complex password. Once in the program, then all your passwords stored there are already linked to your various items that need it so you don't have to remember all the different ones. There's a couple of ways to store that password for easy access like sticking it on the back of one of your credit cards or put it on a thumb drive that you keep on your keychain so all you do is plug it in and copy/paste it into the manager. Here's a good article about all this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Password_managerSome forums I visit will send me an email saying I need to change my p/word as part of their routine security. When I started getting too many junk emails and I called my ISP I was told to change the p/word and that removed a lot of the problem. A friend uses AOL and same thing, change her p/word got rid of most of the junk. Using an encrypted password manager makes it easy to change p/words to the most bad*** military grade p/words you can imagine because you don't care what it is, the manager automatically enters it in the appropriate login fields of the different websites. Bob
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Now here is what is really scary, On another file, using the dictionary option instead of “brute-force”, it found my personal seven digit password in 5 secs. So I am now on a mission to revise my personal password to some crazy ass combination of upper lower characters and numbers...
NEVER use a dictionary word. Use a special charater, a number replacing a letter (5 instead of S, etc), spell something backwards (don't use "dad" or "mom"  ), deliberately misspell a word, use a foreign word (elmusico) but never use something in a dictionary. Don't use the same password on everything, and change them at regular intervals.
I deal with this stuff literally all day long. Half my calls are for password resets.
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Here is another site to check your password strength. https://www.grc.com/haystack.htmIf you are unaware of Gibson Research Corporation (GRC), check out some of his other tools. By the way, you can avoid using password managers by using your imagination and hiding your passwords in plain sight. For example, you can keep SongSetList.txt file on your desktop filled with what seems like a set of song to be performed, Those song titles can also double as pretty good passwords. Another creative possibility is to locate your passwords in an mgu or sgu file of Biab. Still another possibility is to store your passwords in an address file on your desktop. Phone numbers with names make great passwords. Use the phone number and name of an old flame. Try it out. Test "214-670-7253 Mary Jordan" by copying and pasting in the Haystack link above. By the way, don't try to call Mary because the number belongs to the Dallas Police Department. She burned me on that one... That was when I realized it was over. ☺
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Yeah, that's a good hint from Mary. For me, I spent 4 years in military intel specializing in crypto. I use various things tied to nonsense keywords that sound and look like they could be real words but are not. Abbreviated foreign names or locations are useful. Similar to what we used in the Air Force as in you occasionally hear a news report about some document that was originally protected by a "Top Secret codeword" classification. The Top Secret isn't enough, the codeword adds more compartmentalization to it. My important p/words are 16-20 alpha numeric characters with some caps thrown in. So far I test myself by doing it from memory but it's tricky sometimes.
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There was a time when people would ask, for whatever reason, "what's your password?" Of course, I never give my password away. I would respond with, "that's not for you to know!". At the time, my password was actually [N0t4U2N0]. I would have had some special characters in it, but the system we were using only accepted alpha-numeric passwords.
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The idea is to avoid using proprietary password managers and still keep you passwords safe.
You can leave address books, phone number lists, song sets, recipes, to do lists, or whatever other list you can imagine setting near your computer and no one would suspect that they were anything more than what they appeared to be. If you really want to jack with someone's mind, also leave a password list full of complicated but meaningless passwords near the same computer. The nice thing about saving the sensitive information as a text file or an HTML file on the computer is the ability to copy and paste the information into the browser's form.
Which one of these looks the like password to my Gmail account?
PaSaWoRd..2..My GmAiL AcCt
God Rest Merry Gentlemen Key Ab
214-670-7253 Mary Jordan
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