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Thanks for the feedback, Mac. I think a lot of the new RealTracks with RealCharts were definitely recorded this way, because if you watch the fretboard view, the guitarist seems to be really intelligently choosing his position... it definitely looks like the work of a human playing a MIDI-enabled guitar, not an algorithm trying to calculate positioning.



ALL of the Realtracks are recorded "that way".

SOME of the MIDI guitar tracks are recorded using MIDI Guitar and Live Player, many more are likely to have been done with older methods, such as step-entry or whatever "static" methodology.

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However, in the particular song I'm having trouble with, that did not seem to be the case, because the track I was looking at in the notation window was actually an organ solo! Definitely not recorded with a guitar.

After a bit of playing around, I found something interesting. Just for fun, I tried using the "transpose" option in the notation window and set it to various settings (-24, -12, 0, 12, 24) to see if maybe the track was just in the wrong octave for a guitar. It turns out that when I set the transpose function to 24, magically, I was able to "fix" the problems I was having when manually selecting a position. It seems to work fine now.

So, problem solved, for the moment.

The only question remaining is: Why?

Does anybody have any idea why the position control seems to work in some cases, but breaks in other cases, requiring the user to manually transpose the track?



Well, in the case of an ORGAN track, likely that the MIDI notes used, whether Realtrack or MIDI, were not in the right octave for Guitar Notation, which, as you likely know, is written in the Treble Clef, but actually sounds one octave lower than written.

I think that organ part must have been TWO octaves away from the Guitar Notation's thirdspace C since you "found" it with a 24 half step transposition.

Organ is "that way" -- meaning that, since the organ operator controls the Stops on the organ, there is no real "Middle C". For example, If I am using the 8' Stop, then switch to the 4' Stop, with both voices using the same pipe or sound, then playing the 4' stop one octave lower on the manual would deliver the exact same sound as the 8' -- but the notation would be one octave lower in a MIDI rendition nonetheless.

Don't worry, if you keep working and practicing towards the goal, one day you will find that you are completely CAGED on the neck and can just look at notes on the staff and know what position to pick in order to come from the notes in the previous bar and head towards the notes in the succeeding bar, even when sight reading.

Have Fun,


--Mac

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