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The harmonies sound SO much better on this one. Good job David.
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Hi David,
I've never heard this song before. It's absolutely beautiful and your arrangement of it really does justice to its beauty. The Miroslav orchestral voices sound sublime. The oboe at the beginning was perfect.
Very, very impressive.
All the best,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
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Thanks all for the feedback! Re-doing the harmony vocals made a lot of difference. It was a bit embarrassing to solo the harmony tracks and hear what they sounded like in isolation. I took a cue from Steve Young and tripled each part, so there are about 16 vocal tracks. It was tempting to line all the harmony tracks on the beat, but pitch correction already made it sound robotic, and making it "too perfect" sounds just like a cheap vocoder. There are some really nice sounds in the Miroslav Philharmonic. I was doing a short cello instrumental (not BIAB) and found 23 VIOLINS TREM hidden deep in the violin ensemble section. It's a wonderful shimmering sound. Now I need to find an excuse to use all those fantastic brass sounds...
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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David....
Nice job. Trying to emulate a real instrument in midi is not the easiest.... hence the reason I use BB/RB... but they do not play exact melodies now...do they? So we have to play those parts any way we can.
For better pitch correction with less artifacts try Melodyne. It as transparent as you could want. I use it and hear no artifacts when it's used properly...
Again... good job.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Hi, Herb. I used Melodyne (in demo mode) for a first pass of the pitch correction. It's a nice program, and I like the way it lets you modify the modulation, which is something I don't see with other pitch correction software. My DAW uses the same algorithm that BiaB uses, so it sounds pretty good... As long as you don't pull the pitch too far out of range. It was useful for setting up the harmonies in the first place, but no matter what the algorithm, it'll sound better if you can sing the line in the first place. The other problem with pitch correction is that when you line up a bunch of pitch corrected vocals, it sucks all the life from it - the pitch correction becomes the dominant sound, no matter how artifact-free. What I really need to do is spend more time getting good vocals that don't need correction in the first place.  As far as playing "real" instruments goes, what really sells a performance is being able to bring in idiomatic articulations. For example, trills, swoops, falls... that sort of thing. In particular, the "big thing" in sample libraries these days is "legato" note transitions - smoothly connected notes. This can be simulated by suppressing the initial attack in the sample (I think GPO does this) - there's a Kontact library script that's supposed to be pretty good at this. BiaB 2013 now comes with SampleTank. The reviews I've read for SampleTank are a bit underwhelming, but it provides a standard set of sounds. I suspect that it can be enhanced with custom libraries. If that's the case, I can easily imagine a lot of MIDI functionality could result. For example, imagine a custom sound set of guitar strums (up, down, mute) for different sorts of chords. Combine that with MIDI, and you've got a wide set of styles. Or if you've got a bunch of different violin articulations (staccato, détaché short, legato... etc.) you can combine them together to create a much more convincing performance. So I can imagine BiaB moving in that direction, combining MIDI with custom sample libraries to move past the restrictions of RealTracks.
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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