Hi all...

I'm so sorry for putting up such a long post. I should have been more specific in my answers to all of the suggestions you were giving me since I first started asking for help. But even though it is long, I believe that it is very in depth and I have tried to make it as clear as possible so that it may help you to understand where I am with this problem.

Real Band "MIDI Drv

Input Drivers

SB Audigy MIDI Port {E880} (This is on the top of the list)
SB Audigy MIDI Port ll {E880}
E-MU Xboard 25 (This is my MIDI keyboard controller (USB connection) - it only shows on the list when it is plugged into the BACK of the computer and turned on (and yes... I have tried putting it at the top of the list and choosing it - can't move this one to the top, however, but I choose it anyway)

Output Driver(s)

SB Audigy Synth B {E880} (This is on the top of the list)
Microsoft MIDI Mapper
SB Audigy Sw Synth {E880}
SB Audigy Synth A {E880}
SB MIDI Port {E880}
SB Audigy MIDI Port ll {E880}
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth
E-MU Xboard 25 (This is my MIDI controller - it only shows on the list when it is plugged into the BACK of the computer and is turned on... it's a USB connection. (and yes... I have tried putting it at the top of the list and choosing it) ...this is what shows when I have my MIDI interface ("Supra MD 100") plugged into the BACK of the computer. I also plug it in BEFORE opening Real Band. When Windows XP Pro SP 3 installs it, it says "New Hardware found" and then "USB Audio Device" and then it recognizes it by name - "MD 100." It then says that the device is ready to use. However, like I said... when I open Real Band, it isn't in either drivers list.

Control Panel/Sounds and Audio Devices Properties

Default Device
SB Audigy Audio {E880} (this is the only choice I have here)

Sound recording
SB Audigy Audio {E880}
SB Audigy Audio {E880}

MIDI Music Playback
SB Audigy Audio B {E880} (this is the default device. My other choices here are:
SB Audigy Sw synth {E880}
SB Audigy Sw synth A {E880}
SB Audigy MIDI Port {E880}
SB Audigy MIDI Port ll {E880}
Microsoft Wavetable SW Synth

Control Panel/Hardware/Device Manager/Sound,Video, Game Controllers

My MIDI interface ("Supra MD 100") is listed here as "USB Audio Device.” My MIDI keyboard controller, E-Mu Xboard 25 (USB connection), shows here when it is plugged into the BACK of the computer and turned on.
As stated... all of this is what I see with the MIDI interface, ("Supra MD 100") and my MIDI keyboard (USB connection) plugged into the BACK of the computer.

rharv: "Are you looking in the 'Options-midi devices' section and seeing an audio device??
In PGMusic products it should be recognized in the midi devices area... sounds like you are
looking in the audio area."
Yes... I'm positive that I'm looking in the "Options-midi devices" section and not the "Audio device."

Silvertones: “If you are running us around in circles here for fun, it has happened before, don't.”

I can assure you that this isn’t the case. I was actually embarrassed to start this new thread for fear that you guys would just get fed up hearing me whine about my problem and not bother trying to help me anymore. I can see your point – it’s starting to look like a “boy who cried wolf” situation. I should point out that I’m 53 years old (young???) and surely would much rather be making music than trying to waste anybody’s time. All I want to do is to make music with my stuff and you can believe me when I say that I have, and do, appreciate any and all the suggestions and advice that I have been getting in trying to get me up and running.

1.I asked you this:

OK do you have this:

1. Midi Out from the keyboard to the MIDI in of the cable
Yes

2.MIDI out of the cable to the MIDI in of the JV

Yes – And as per a suggestion from Mac, I even tried switching the cables – nothing.

3. In BIAB-- OPT > MIDI/Audio Driver setup > MIDI in driver = USB( whatever that cable is called) > MIDI out Driver = USB( whatever that cable is called)

The cable ("Supra MD 100") doesn’t show up in the MIDI/Audio Driver Setup in BIAB OR Real Band.

4. Is your JV setup in performance mode so that it can play all midi channels (OMNI)

Yes… in fact, I’ve tried ALL of the modes – nothing.

5. Are any lights blinking on the JV

No.

“Your responses was this:
Well... I have gone over and done everything that everyone has suggested I do.”

I was generalizing my answer instead of going into specific detail… but I DID do everything that was suggested by everyone – including you… sorry...my mistake.

I also forgot to mention.
I told you to hook it up just like you did in the old days with Cakewalk. This was ignored.
In the old days YOU didn't have USB so it would have been hooked up with a MIDI adapter cable to the joystick port of your sound card. That's how MIDI was implemented on cheap cards.
You now have an Audidgy2 card in your computer. It has a joy stick port. Why aren't you using the old joystick>MIDI adapter cable just like the old days.

In the old days, the only way I could get the JV 1010 to work was to use it with Windows 98. I had one of those drawers that you put your hard drive into and it allowed you to swap them. I couldn’t use the old version of Cakewalk and the JV 1010 in Win XP because of a terrible latency problem that existed when I DID try. When I got BIAB I figured that my problems would be over – I figured that I could start using Windows XP for doing my music. Believe me… your suggestion wasn’t ignored. I guess I should have explained why I didn’t want to go back to the old days with Cakewalk, and even worse, Windows 98.

Mac: “Please list everything you see on the LH Input and RH output side of your pgmusic software's MIDI driver window.”
I should have done this a long time ago – as Sivertones suggested. See above.

Gary: “# Make sure that the MIDI Out from the controller goes to the MIDI IN of the MIDI Interface.” “(Some interfaces, like the M-Audio Uno seem to be reversed, so if after making sure that everything I tell you that follows is correct, and it still doesn't work, switch the cables)”
Check and check again for switching the cables.
“#Make sure the MIDI Out from the Interface goes to the MIDI In of the JV1010.”
Check.
#”Open Real Band”
Done
“#Go the MIDI Driver icon on the Menu bar and open it. You'll see your MIDI interface, probably along with a few other things in the Input, and Output sides.”
Nope… as mentioned above – the interface doesn’t show up in either list. But my MIDI keyboard controller does when it is connected to the BACK of the computer and turned on. I’ve tried using it but no go. If it ISN’T connected and turned on, Real Band, when I open it, tells me that “E-MU Xboard 25” isn’t installed.
“#Select your MIDI inteface on both sides, so that only the interface is highlighted.”
My interface ("Supra MD 100" USB MIDI cable) doesn’t show up on either side in the MIDI setup. In fact, the name “Supra MD 100” doesn’t show up anywhere in Windows – it calls it “USB Audio Device.”
#”Press Move Selected Devices To Top”
Can’t do this as my MIDI interface isn’t listed here. Nor is the “USB Audio Device.”
#”Check and make sure that the Re-Route MIDI Playback to default DXi/VSTi Synth is NOT checked. Latency should auto adjust. Close the MIDI Driver setup Window.”
Done.
“#Click on the Preferences Button on the Menu. Select the 6-MIDI tab.”
OK… done.
“#Click on the MIDI Thru button. Check to make sure Enable Thru is checked, Track Specific is checked.”
Yes and yes… done… both checked.
“#From the Options Menu, select Show Piano, if you don't already have it showing.”
It is showing.
#”Play something on the controller. The Piano bar should show you the notes you are playing. At this point, if you do not see the notes playing, switch the cables on the interface.”
Yes… the notes are showing as I play them on the controller and there is sound. But the sound isn’t from the JV 1010 – in fact, it is off. I don’t know where the sound is coming from because I don’t even have any MIDI patch picked in Real Band. The sound is the grand piano. When I DO pick a patch in Real Band it DOES change the patch to the one I picked – but it’s a general MIDI patch. If I go back and de-select the patch (it shows “---“) the general MIDI grand piano still plays. When I switch the cables the notes I play on the controller stop showing in Real Band.
#” When you see the notes on the keyboard, you should hear the JV1010 playing.”
As I said above… the sound isn’t coming from the JV 1010 - it is a general MIDI sound even though I don’t have ANY patches selected.
“#If you do not hear the JV1010 playing, create a new song, with no data, click on Track 1.”
OK… that’s done. I do NOT hear the JV 1010 playing – but I do hear the general MIDI piano even though it hasn’t been selected from the patch list. The patch list shows “---“. Also, the LED light on the JV 1010 isn’t flashing when I play a note.
“#Right click in the Track Configure area, and make sure the Port is set to your midi interface, that the Channel is set to 1, and that the Track Type is MIDI.”
I can’t set the port to my MIDI interface because the interface isn’t there. I did set the Channel to 1 and I made sure that the track type is MIDI.
“If that doesn't help you, I'm not sure what else is going on.”
That makes two of us, Gary. Perhaps you might be starting to get a sense of my frustration, huh?
“If you can't get it to work, tell me exactly what type of Interface, and what shows up in the MIDI Device Driver dialog window.”
See above for the content of the MIDI Device Driver dialog window.
My interface is a USB MIDI cable… it looks EXACTLY the same as the one Mac was telling me about – the M-Audio Uno. Mine is a “Supra MD 100.” But there isn’t any name brand on the package that it came in – it just says “USB MIDI Converter.” No driver or installation disk came with it. There is no web site on the package. I have done a LOT of searching on the web for the “Supra MD 100” hoping to find some kind of driver for it but Google doesn’t find anything about a “Supra MD 100.” At Mac’s suggestion I downloaded and installed the drivers for the M-Audio Uno. Before installing this driver I made sure to remove the driver that Windows was using. Once installed I plugged in the USB MIDI converter. It didn’t see the new driver – Windows installed its own drivers again. I tried to “update driver” and when I pointed Windows to the new driver it couldn’t recognize it. I also tried to use the Roland driver – same result. Please know that before I installed ANY driver I made sure that any other driver that was there was removed. For added measures I even rebooted the computer after every removal and installation.
As you may have noticed I am no expert with this stuff. However, the last time I was working with my music – quite a few years ago - I was using an older version of Cakewalk – I think it was the first Sonar to come out. I was able to use the JV 1010 but with a price. I had to remove my HD that Windows XP was on and replace it with another one with Windows 98. That was the only way it would work. At that time I was able to download a patch map from a now defunct (I think) web site called “lil’ Chips.” It was a very small patch map but at least it allowed me to use SOME of the JV 1010 patches.
If I remember correctly, the reason I had to use Windows 98 was because of extreme latency in XP. I don’t think there was an option to use ASIO in that version of Cakewalk – but I could be wrong. I just know that I could only use the JV 1010 properly in Windows 98. Roland stopped supporting the JV 1010 before Win XP even came out.
But… with the USB MIDI interface it should be a breeze to start using it again without any problems. (underline the word “SHOULD.”)
When I started reading about BIAB with all of it’s RealTracks and RealBand and listened to the fantastic sounds they produced, I got the itch to start working with music again. I purchased the UltraPac and have no regrets about buying it. I couldn’t wait to get started – I patiently worked with BIAB using the manual that came with it and have made progress – I knew that there would be a learning curve before I bought it. However, I do pick up things fast.
I really hate being a pain in the butt to you guys but… this is the only place I’ve found where I may be able to find the solution to my problem. I can honestly say that if/when I do get the synth up and running I won’t be bothering you anymore… I’d have more time to just read the forums – especially the “hints and tricks” and keep learning.
Again… thanks to ALL of you for your help and patience.
Bobby

https://soundcloud.com/bobby-t-394727974