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<...> Would you still do it though if you didn't get paid for it, (other than the odd charity night) since you get such a great buzz out of it?
musiclover Yes, as long as it isn't in a commercial establishment. I won't do open mic nights because I firmly believe (1) it is exploitation and (2) it potentially puts paying acts out of work. I do jam sessions when I know the house band is getting paid a fair price, and especially if I know I'm supporting a musician friend of mine. I've brought my flute or sax to friends parties. My neighbor had a party a few weeks ago and hired a punk band. I sat in with them for a while, and it was a lot of fun. I told them just to play their gig and I'll follow along. I have a good ear, and did just fine, they gave me solos, I played the backing riffs with them, and did call & response licks with the singer. Now I can say I played in a punk band  And yes, I do charity gigs if I believe in the charity and if I don't feel the charity is just a cover for private profits. Our most regular freebie is at the nursing home at the VA hospital about an hours drive away. We play for the wheelchair bound vets, and it gives a a good feeling knowing we are giving a little something back to those who gave a lot for us. But because I also do it as a profession, and know my peers are doing it for a profession, when it comes time to play in any place that is making a profit, I expect to be paid a fair price for my services. It sure beats a regular job. Music IS your regular job. Music as a career is a job. You buy tools, you use those tools, you practice every day to refine your skills.<...> It is most definitely a job, but it isn't a 'regular job' in the sense that I punch a time clock, follow orders from 'the man' and leave the job at the office at 5 o'clock. I have more than the touted 10,000 required hours of practice stored in this brain and fingers. I also play 7 different instruments (all saxes, flute, wind synthesizer, guitar, bass, keyboard synth and drums) plus voice (which was the hardest to learn). I learned to sequence my own backing tracks, because the ones I bought back in the 1980s were so bad they were laughable. Fortunately I had formal music education and arranging was part of that. I still sequence my own backing tracks and sometimes add a little real audio to the MIDI sounds. Why? Good karaoke tracks are available - but - (a) there is a difference in performing for a recording and live - my tracks are optimized for live performance (b) I can put them in the best key for us without artifacts (c) I can extend the arrangement (d) I can leave room for my own improvised solos instead of letting someone else on the track have all the fun. I have a big investment in music gear. I play in a duo with my wife (when I met her she was in a different band, and when both our bands broke up we happened to get in the same 5 piece band that was forming, and when that tanked we started our duo). So we own the PA (Speakers, amps, FX, mixer, monitors, mics. etc.) and being a multi-instrumentalist I have to have two saxes, two wind synths, two guitars, etc., because if one breaks, the show must go on. I definitely put in more than 40 hours per week, and never leave the gig at the office. I learn new songs, practice, take care of the bookkeeping, communicate with the clients, keep an eye on the competition, and so on. Even when listening to the radio I'm analyzing the songs, should we learn it, can we learn it, how is it structured, how are others reacting to it, and so on. The last football game I watched was in the 1970s, and since the mid 1980s I tuned into Johnny Carson's last Tonight show and a couple of Jay Leno follow ups. I disconnected the cable, never put up an antenna, and never got a digital converter. I don't watch commercial TV - zero, nada, zilch. I've never seen MASH, Cheers, Simpsons, Seinfeld, Sopranos, Taxi, Desperate Housewives, and so on. Instead I learned lead guitar and wind synth, how to write style and fake disks for BiaB using my music arranging education, how to write web sites for my BiaB business and my Duo, and so many other things. I live my life by doing things instead of living my life vicariously by watching actors pretend to do things. No, it's anything but a 'regular' job. But even though I put in more than 40 hours, it doesn't seem like a job. It's just what I do. I'm living life on my own terms, not answering to anyone, making the decisions myself, and either profiting by the good ones or learning from the bad ones. I make a living doing music and nothing but music. I really enjoy gigging, it's the most fun I can have with my clothes on. My head gets into that place where there is no space or time, no "Notes Norton", just the music, which seems more like it is flowing through me instead of from me. It's pure bliss and my career is a way to follow my bliss. Everyone should be so lucky. I don't usually mind schlepping the gear - I just think of it as weight bearing exercise - the kind people pay hundreds of dollars for in the local gym. OK after a gig sometimes I wish I had a roadie, but I put that thought out of my head and just pack the gear. When I get home I'm tired, but it's a good kind of tired. I've had two regular jobs in my life. I guess I was testing what it was to be a 'regular person'. Even though one of them was a Cable TV Field Engineer (I also took electronics in college), I feel better calling myself a musician. I got along with the work on the day jobs just fine, and I still played on the weekends, but life itself wasn't as satisfying. Being a musician is not what I do, it's what I am. I've been gigging since I was in junior high school, I'm at the age where I could retire, but I have no plans on doing so. What would I do? Fish? Play golf? I'd rather play music. It's my bliss. So for as long as I can fog a mirror, I'll play music, and as long as someone will hire me, I'll do it for a gig. I'm having a happy life. What more could anyone ask for? Insights and incites by Notes
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New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!
Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
- Playable RealTracks Set 4
- RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
- SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
- RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
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New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
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Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
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