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Trevor - stunning video. awesome ideas...


But I want to know about the song. Did you do that in BIAB??? The horns were terrific. Mixed with the synth - that was cool. Can you post that in the Showcase - and give specifics on how you created that?... Share!!

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Trevor,

What a great video and what spectacular ideas! All I could think of was "Wow! That would be great!" as you unrolled the features.

I have no idea how you visualised all your thoughts. It's very impressive and must have taken quite a bit of time.

I agree with floyd. Why haven't you posted this song in the User Showcase?

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Originally Posted By: floyd jane
Trevor - stunning video. awesome ideas...

But I want to know about the song. Did you do that in BIAB??? The horns were terrific. Mixed with the synth - that was cool. Can you post that in the Showcase - and give specifics on how you created that?... Share!!
floyd

Hi Floyd, thanks for the great feedback, appreciated. Unfortunately, I didn't produce the audio with BiaB. It was done using Sonicfire Pro's 'SmartSound' product, which is used to create backing tracks for movies and video. You just pick the genre, select any specific variations (mood, feel etc), set the required track length hh:mm:ss:ff, and it generates a track exactly to fit the desired length. I have a fairly large library of different sound styles. I guess that these are essentially very similar to 'Real Tracks'

I was going to do something in BiaB but run out of time (and maybe creativity by then!).
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By the way, great name for a song: "Uncontrollably Brazen". Even better name for a band. But the song on the screen is not what we were listening to...

Hi Matt, as mentioned in an above post, the song audio was produced by a different program. However, I used BiaB's Auto-Generate Song Title feature for a different song that was on screen (one I am currently writing) and it came up with "Uncontrollably Brazen", and well, I couldn't resist.


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Yeah, I knew that wasn't BIAB playing. However, I didn't know the BIAB song title generator was that hip!

I still think it's better as a name for a band.


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I was not aware of that - Sonicfire Pro's 'SmartSound'. God only knows what else is out there and what is currently on the drafting board.


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Wow, great production.
I would agree with Mario D. About the play, record.....
Personally I would rather wait another year to have a GUI like this rather than get something this year that would be a rehash of the same old look.

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Trevor:

Great demo!
Thanks for taking the time to put that together.
It's always so much easier to "see" something, especially in a video, than to read through a description of it.

Really good ideas. +1 here.

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Chord sheet window.

Got a 24 bar song loaded.

If I loop say the first two bars - then -

Set the song running

Click somewhere else in the chord sheet.


All indication of the section disappears from the screen.

If it was someone asking something and thought train is lost, you cant see when you return

Please provide the ability to "pin" the start and finish of a repeat.


Suggestion 1 - use the customary pic icon two colour one for start one for end

Suggestion 2 Maybe use music repeat notation signs in a highlighted colour of some kind.



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Chord Sheet View

Instead of having a colour change to indicate the active bar have some form of symbol

I would favour some other form of indicator

The red line box in the lead sheet window is soooo thin that if you were using glasses precious nano seconds are lost glimpsing at where you are.


I want to say there is a lot to like about the chord sheet window. I run it with Alanah chocoloate theme,. If you are spending hours working on a tune its not a good thing to stare at manuscript whites. OK on a smaller device of course. COlour schemes fonts are really useful.

Agree that we should 'feel' like we are entering directly into a chord click on the chord in the song bang - chord change options apparent.

It would be good to be able to enable/disable a count in for a loop or section.

Would it be possible to use the repeat 1 and Repeat 2" Symbols when displaying the structure of a song. To have the option to show a song that way at a single click, in the main window - to set a pref.

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Well done Trev I'm proud of you mate ! it's a shame you have to go through such a fight to point out the the truth but you kickedass and took BIAB into the stratosphere.
He who has ears will hear.

I can't do it anymore I'm totally worn out, defeated, and given up !

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Layout the preferences differently. The present look is crowded to the eye and reduces my mind to peering and hunt and peck. Colors and font prefs are in different places. Could do with a resort.

A Bigger window. Tree Structure pane. More air to breathe.

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Dockeable transport bar

Have a proper dockeable transport bar where you can hide features you don't need. Make it feel like the controls of a star deck.

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I am always loosings songs in the ether - Yes I am disorganised.

Suggestion?Brainstorm
If we had the concept of 'most used' song, a song search filter for saved after date...

We need some kind of way of organising favorites without having favorite this and favourite that everywhere. Favorite song> Favorite Style, Favorite Real Track ALL one screen one place

Someway of indicating and setting this that Is very apparent

Eric Persing has come up with some new ways of searching for sounds in Omnisphere 2. One could search by "songs that feature this MIDI/Real Track instrument.

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Could be very useful if expanded. Always with default but changeable preferences to set in new preferences look.

Add an optional piano/fretboard/notation view.

Show a standard voicing on a keyboard notation or Tab

Hsve some form of intelligent system to offer on the keyboard fret notation alternative chords/ voicings (within BIAB limits). Maybe an indication of a chords 'family'. Different views perhaps.

Just lateral thinking.............

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Originally Posted By: solidrock
Well done Trev I'm proud of you mate ! it's a shame you have to go through such a fight to point out the the truth but you kickedass and took BIAB into the stratosphere.
He who has ears will hear.

I can't do it anymore I'm totally worn out, defeated, and given up !

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SR, I'm pretty honored to get such praise from you. I know you have worked tirelessly with ideas, and taken these further to develop separate improvements that we have all benefited from. Your words speak volumes. There are lots of team players who have contributed. Every positive comment, every positive input is absolutely valuable. Teamwork is what it's all about, I reckon. Much appreciated. And "never give up". Your input has always been more than valuable.
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Would it be possible to have your songs default to regenerating automatically, as a pref.


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Well, seeing that I managed to 'rock the boat' yesterday (this was unintentional, although it appears that I managed to completely capsize it...), I thought it my duty to come up with practical ideas instead of talk. Talk is cheap. Ideas, and functional concepts are required. It was therefore my duty to put in some effort to restore normality - if that's possible.

So, I spent a little bit of time today with some 'ideas only' concepts of how the interface could be improved, by reducing clutter, an hopefully streamlining the look and appearance, so to speak.

This is a rough shot, only a day's work (including video), and is completely conceptual. It could be improved for sure, but it's a start.

I hope that others might think this has merit and could be taken further, or offer their own suggestions, as others already have.

(I hope PGM staff get a chance to see it too. Peter, feel free to PM me for design ideas.)

Watching on YouTube at larger size is perhaps more beneficial to see the new features.



Feel free to provide all comments, criticisms, good, bad, anything.

My intentions (as always) are only to provide ideas to improve and advance the product, nothing less.

None of the ideas in the video are difficult to implement too.

Best

Trevor

Nice job on the demo. But I would like to see them reorganize/refactor the toolbars (and menus and dialog boxes) rather than simply hiding them!

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The truth of the matter is that in biab 2013 we had dockable toolbars, but we went backwards and this feature was removed.

Pg music totally buried its head in the sand, and though we were told often enough that the dockable feature would be reinstated and it "was a work in progress" nothing ever happened.

Just part of the reason this has reached the stage that it has now.

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