A very interesting topic, and one that I have struggled with as well. I have used all of the suggestions listed in one form or the other over the years and they are all valid. The one I haven't seen listed yet and was of great benefit to me was to learn "relative" pitch". This is not perfect pitch but the difference in tones by their intervals. There are many examples on youtube about this and they give song examples. For instance sing the first two notes of Auld Lang Syne (sp) or Here comes the bride, the first is the 1 and the second is the perfect 4th. If I were in C this 4th would be F. Most pop songs aren't that complicated so the chords can be figured out. Also i can use do-re-mi etc. The beauty of relative pitch is that I can use it in any key since the relationship is the same. I have madee up your own relative pitch examples that are meaningful to me. I really enjoy reading other peoples methods because it shows they are serious about their music. I do have a working knowledge of degrees of scale. Hope this may also help. DennisD

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