Yes, I tried both of those with Windows 8 and also settled on Stardock 8. But with Windows 10, a version of the Start Menu is back and I don't use any add-on. One reason is that I am called upon to fix others' PCs and I like to work without needing to install extras.

Also, in 10 there is a lot less fishing around for things just off the screen, which was very annoying in 8. 10 is easy enough by itself.


BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors