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I must start racing my fingers to "googledom" and pretend like I'm as well informed as you guys. 
Like Will Roger said "All I know is what I read in the papers."
All I know about the bible is what I've read in it.
Like the man said, "ain't that a kick in the head!"
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Boy! HT, you take no prisoners, eh? 
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Whos talkin about the bible?
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Dear HappyTrails:
Unless you are merely trying to stir up trouble (a distinct possibility), I would suggest to you the following:
You cannot discuss, debate or educate these people. They are followers of "The faith." As soon as you begin to question or confront, you are immediately the recipient of biblical quotations, and if you persist, you are quickly called "ignorant," rapidly followed by the the accusation that you have not read "enough" bible.
At this point, the proper response is for you to meekly say, "Welll..., you have a point, I really haven't spent a lot of time with it (Inserting "Sir" here is optional), but I will now shut up and go read the bible a few times, and come back and discuss. Or maybe the Bible will cure me of my ignorance, and I won't have any more doubts."
If you say anything else, anything at all, you are quickly re-categorized from "ignorant" to being called a "swine" (immune to "pearls") and thus, ipso facto, subhuman, uneducable, and therefore, ineligible for entry into "heaven." Problem solved. Brilliant in its simplicity. "Purity of heart [and mind] is to will one thing."
As far as the need to stuff this nonsense repetitively in your face (aka known as "evangelism" or "ministry"), it seems to be a unique problem of Christianity, partly shared by other successful sadomasochistic cults based on shame and guilt, such as Islam. Of course, they all preach at you because they love you and want to share the bliss -- this is the position of all cults, successful or not. Older, successful religions, such as Hinduism, are able to practice their faith and rituals privately, within their own cult, with dignity and grace.
Now I am gonna go and read my bible... Or maybe I'll just eat some of these turnips and pond scum that the good farmer threw in my pen. Praise Heum!
Ben B.
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Well put, Ben. And welcome to the forum!
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Funny how Christianity and Islam are cults, but Hinduism is a religion ..
I'd say we are stepping in to the 'offensive' part of the posting rules, regordless of personal beliefs
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So Ben says it is okay to characterize the believers in the faith as, what is it -- "sadomasochistic cults based on shame and guilt" -- but not okay for us to defend ourselves from the accusations and demonizations of others.
Got it.
--Mac
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All true religions are based on LOVE and their message is 'get along with each other and do your best not to upset anybody'
Not much different from this forum, to be honest..
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Dear HappyTrails:
Unless you are merely trying to stir up trouble (a distinct possibility), I would suggest to you the following:
You cannot discuss, debate or educate these people. They are followers of "The faith." As soon as you begin to question or confront, you are immediately the recipient of biblical quotations, and if you persist, you are quickly called "ignorant," rapidly followed by the the accusation that you have not read "enough" bible.
At this point, the proper response is for you to meekly say, "Welll..., you have a point, I really haven't spent a lot of time with it (Inserting "Sir" here is optional), but I will now shut up and go read the bible a few times, and come back and discuss. Or maybe the Bible will cure me of my ignorance, and I won't have any more doubts."
If you say anything else, anything at all, you are quickly re-categorized from "ignorant" to being called a "swine" (immune to "pearls") and thus, ipso facto, subhuman, uneducable, and therefore, ineligible for entry into "heaven." Problem solved. Brilliant in its simplicity. "Purity of heart [and mind] is to will one thing."
As far as the need to stuff this nonsense repetitively in your face (aka known as "evangelism" or "ministry"), it seems to be a unique problem of Christianity, partly shared by other successful sadomasochistic cults based on shame and guilt, such as Islam. Of course, they all preach at you because they love you and want to share the bliss -- this is the position of all cults, successful or not. Older, successful religions, such as Hinduism, are able to practice their faith and rituals privately, within their own cult, with dignity and grace.
Now I am gonna go and read my bible... Or maybe I'll just eat some of these turnips and pond scum that the good farmer threw in my pen. Praise Heum!
Ben B.
LOL! Yeah, I know Ben, but it's something to do.
Like the man said, "ain't that a kick in the head!"
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All true religions are based on LOVE and their message is 'get along with each other and do your best not to upset anybody'
Not much different from this forum, to be honest..
I dunno, Islam says you should kill the infidels!
Like the man said, "ain't that a kick in the head!"
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Funny how Christianity and Islam are cults, but Hinduism is a religion ..
I'd say we are stepping in to the 'offensive' part of the posting rules, regordless of personal beliefs
They're all cults. Band in a Box users are cult too!
Like the man said, "ain't that a kick in the head!"
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When I was little, my old man told me not to believe everything i read. ( Of course, he was happy if I read the back of a cereal box) I've read the bible and, of course, I dont believe everything that's in there. Lots of 4th 5th 10th ect. hand stuff. However, the general message is all good, IMO . I also believe that catagorizing religion as "cults" isn't too far off the mark, in all candor. Not all cults are bad, however. Islam does seem to have some rather derogatory ( violent) references to non-believers. ( shivers) But I'm sure there are similar passages in the bible. My thing with religion is that so many millions of people have died because of it over the centuries. Think we can all agree on that. The fanatics give it a bad rep. Not all fanatics are bad, though. I am a die-hard Detroit Lions fan.
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I am a die-hard Detroit Lions fan
I'm with ya there, he says with his head hung low
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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LOL! Yeah, I know Ben, but it's something to do.
Once again - QED
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