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As BIAB has once again come under scrutiny as to whether or not it can create modern sounding music I am challenging anyone interested to create a current top 100 style song. Here are the basic rules: 1.Write and record an original song using BIAB that sounds similar to what is on the Billboard Hot 100 chart. The chart can be found at https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100 (You will notice that the chart has a wide variety of genres and style.) 2. Post it to the user showcase forum and use the hashtag #Hot100 in your post. 3. Share the song link here. It's that simple. I hope that with some of the talented musicians here that we can put this subject to rest once and for all. (If you use one of the songs on the chart as inspiration please mention it in your post so that others can listen and compare.)
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It's that simple. I hope that with some of the talented musicians here that we can put this subject to rest once and for all.
Yikes. I hope this didn't "put it to rest" already. I waited to reply to see if anyone else was going to join in. A LOT of talk about it; and now crickets. Just some quick clarification if I could please my good man : 1-Would this be using BIAB exclusively? Or is is it using BIAB as we see fit within the song; and able to use anything else as well? 2-Is there a deadline for this? I'm a bit busy the beginning of the month but may be able to make time more towards the middle to end. Not sure yet. Thanks. Cool idea. I would like to see where it goes.
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TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.
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first, you have to be able to write something comparable.
Second, you have to be able to translate what's in your head, to a finished wave.
There's a huge amount of skill involved in both sections of this challenge.
Third... who's to say what the next hit will sound like?
Having said all that.... yeah, it is possible to use BB to do this. At least I believe it is possible. Considerable time would be spent in the DAW recording live tracks and editing the BB/RT files to make it sound totally hip and cool and modern.
I didn't see any country in that chart, and I'm not about to try writing a hip-hop song which is a genre I know nothing about. Regarding what's considered "modern and cool" in country music is totally up to the listener's definition. There's Luke Bryant and the other "rap/hip hop" influenced guys, then there's Chris Stapleton, and the others who still slam dunk a country ballad. Worlds apart, but still country hits playing on the radio.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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It's that simple. I hope that with some of the talented musicians here that we can put this subject to rest once and for all.
Yikes. I hope this didn't "put it to rest" already. I waited to reply to see if anyone else was going to join in. A LOT of talk about it; and now crickets. Just some quick clarification if I could please my good man : 1-Would this be using BIAB exclusively? Or is is it using BIAB as we see fit within the song; and able to use anything else as well? 2-Is there a deadline for this? I'm a bit busy the beginning of the month but may be able to make time more towards the middle to end. Not sure yet. Thanks. Cool idea. I would like to see where it goes. I thought her would be more interest too but maybe the users here just aren't interested in creating songs that sound like what's on the charts. To answer your questions... 1. You can use BIAB in conjunction with other programs however you see fit to complete the challenge. 2. No time limits. Whenever you get a chance to create something is great.
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first, you have to be able to write something comparable.
Second, you have to be able to translate what's in your head, to a finished wave.
There's a huge amount of skill involved in both sections of this challenge. There is a lot of work and skill involved in this kind of production but I'm sure that our talented community of musicians here are capable of completing the challenge. I didn't see any country in that chart, and I'm not about to try writing a hip-hop song which is a genre I know nothing about. Regarding what's considered "modern and cool" in country music is totally up to the listener's definition. There's Luke Bryant and the other "rap/hip hop" influenced guys, then there's Chris Stapleton, and the others who still slam dunk a country ballad. Worlds apart, but still country hits playing on the radio. There are a hand full of country artists on this chart including Kenny Chesney, Jason Aldean, Luke Combs,Shane Brown, Sugar Land,Florida Georgia Line and Chris Stapleton. I'm actually impressed with the diversity of styles and genres on this chart.
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There are a hand full of country artists on this chart including Kenny Chesney, Jason Aldean, Luke Combs,Shane Brown, Sugar Land,Florida Georgia Line and Chris Stapleton. I'm actually impressed with the diversity of styles and genres on this chart.
Yep.... didn't look close enough.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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These are the comments that get me labeled a troll...
Country songs on that chart :
29-Heaven/Kane Brown
38-You Make It Easy/Jason Aldean
62-Most People Are Good/Luke Bryan
63-Tequila/Dan + Shay
67-Singles You Up/Jordan Davis
68-One Number Away/Luke Combs
72-Babe/Sugland Featuring Taylor Swift
80-I Lived It/Blake Shelton
82-Get Along/Kenny Chesney
84-UpDown/Morgan Wallen Featuring Florida Georgia Line
85-The Long Way/Brett Eldredge
86-For The First Time/Darius Rucker
88-Woman,Amen/Dierks Bentley
95-Everything's Gonna Be Alright/David Lee Murphy & Kenny Chesney
96-Cry Pretty/Carrie Underwood
But then again, what would I know.
Herb, to be clear this has nothing to do with you. I know damn well you would know those are country songs.
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[/quote]I thought her would be more interest too but maybe the users here just aren't interested in creating songs that sound like what's on the charts.[/quote] I was really hoping there would be. Talk is cheap. I respect what you are doing. To answer your questions...
1. You can use BIAB in conjunction with other programs however you see fit to complete the challenge. Well played! Sounds like a plan to me. 2. No time limits. Whenever you get a chance to create something is great. Cool. Give me a little time. I'm all in. I'm excited to hear what you do as well. I'm still hoping others will step up. There really are songs beyond the rap genre on the charts..and not just country either. I fear people listen to a few and give up listening. I think that may be part of the problem with people tuning out because of what they don't like. They miss out on something new they would. And that's where limitation starts, and learning ends, closing your mind.
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I am working on a Loop-based song, the intent of which is to see what that is like. Some of the Loops are from the BIAB Loop folder (so it is a valid Showcase entry).
Since it is more "of the modern persuasion" than my usual, I suppose it will fit with the challenge. It is not patterned after anything from the list... but by the nature of what it is, is an attempt to find that "modern thing"...
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I am working on a Loop-based song, the intent of which is to see what that is like. Some of the Loops are from the BIAB Loop folder (so it is a valid Showcase entry).
Since it is more "of the modern persuasion" than my usual, I suppose it will fit with the challenge. It is not patterned after anything from the list... but by the nature of what it is, is an attempt to find that "modern thing"...
If you're in, I'm out. I don't need you to make me look armature. I can do that very well on my own, thank you very much. Truth be told, I'm so pumped you are doing this. Really, really cool of you!
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I am working on a Loop-based song, the intent of which is to see what that is like. Some of the Loops are from the BIAB Loop folder (so it is a valid Showcase entry).
Since it is more "of the modern persuasion" than my usual, I suppose it will fit with the challenge. It is not patterned after anything from the list... but by the nature of what it is, is an attempt to find that "modern thing"...
If you're in, I'm out. I don't need you to make me look armature. I can do that very well on my own, thank you very much. Truth be told, I'm so pumped you are doing this. Really, really cool of you! Sorry... you cannot back out. It's already in writing... Pony up.
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Before I enter I only have one question.
Is there a fire extinguisher in the PG Music server room?
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Before I enter I only have one question.
Is there a fire extinguisher in the PG Music server room? LOL... I'm not sure but we'll have the fire department on stand by for that hot number you are going to create.
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Before I enter I only have one question.
Is there a fire extinguisher in the PG Music server room? Would this be for after you enter?  Lord helps us all! 
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Yeah I'll tell you people this. You better have a fire extinguisher by the sound board because I'm about to burn this place down. I may even dedicate it to you HTL if you agree to say uncle when I show you what kick [*****] really is. You want to learn and I'm about to show you how it's done. Deal? 
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Uh oh... David is throwing down lol
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Just found this post. Will have a think. My brain hurts.
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Yeah I'll tell you people this. You better have a fire extinguisher by the sound board because I'm about to burn this place down. I may even dedicate it to you HTL if you agree to say uncle when I show you what kick [*****] really is. You want to learn and I'm about to show you how it's done. Deal? Ok...sort of off topic, but I never knew that the censor *** comes off when you hit "quote" to reply. You can see the word in the reply screen. Weird. Also, I don't know that I've ever had to put quotation marks around the word "quote" before. And now I've had to do it twice. Sorry for the "shiny objects." Of course I would say "uncle." I don't have the ego many seem to think I have. It does have to adhere to the parameters set forth though. So, it would have to sound as a reasonable attempt at something that sounds like it would be on the Hot 100 chart. It can't just be "I think my song kicks arse, therefor it does and you don't know what you're talking about if you don't" kind of thing. Just my opinion, of course. I think Eddie summed it up best when he said "Motown is modern to me"...or something along those lines. I'm very excited. I love hearing what people come up with and have really enjoyed your songs. I may be WAY off the mark with what I do; but I'm cool with it and would admit it if that was the case. It's a learning experience either way. So, a "win" by me. So Professor Snyder; class is in session. I'm excited for the learning to begin. Teach me what you know my good man.
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I am guided by my own inner flame HTL. I am not interested in wasting tons of time on creating a joke. My only interest over the past three years has been showing how BIAB can help push boundaries. I also am not interested in anyone's definition of modern because that bores me. The future is the only thing that interests me. With that in mind, I have some producing to do. I make up my own rules. See you on the other side.
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I am guided by my own inner flame HTL. I am not interested in wasting tons of time on creating a joke. My only interest over the past three years has been showing how BIAB can help push boundaries. I also am not interested in anyone's definition of modern because that bores me. The future is the only thing that interests me. With that in mind, I have some producing to do. I make up my own rules. See you on the other side. I know you do and completely respect that. I'm glad you do too. It's always interesting for me to hear what you come up with. Very enjoyable all the way around. I was simply stating what the thread is attempting to accomplish and I wasn't sure if you were at odds with it. I'm still not sure if you are. To me, it feels a bit like you are saying you couldn't care less what's on the charts; you are going to do your own thing like nothing on the charts to show us what real music is. If that's the case; you aren't really in line with what the OP is trying to accomplish, I believe. I may be wrong with his intentions; and I may be wrong with yours. Clarify if you would like. For what it's worth, I would love to hear your song whether or not it fits into the idea of this thread. I love your creativity and execution. So the ONLY question I'm asking is, will we need the fire extinguisher in this thread, or a different one? I know something big is going to drop somewhere.
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Get the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!
Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!
It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!
We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!
Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:
Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!
Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!
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