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Hello Folks, I had to contact Ebay by phone and this was the only song playing whilst I was on hold. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfH5Ts_PgL0I think a lovely little song that I haven't heard before, even trying to learn it. But it seems a lot of other people beg to differ, they can't stand it, for the simple reason that it was used on Ebay and they had to keep listening to it while on hold. I think most of us would jump at the chance of having a song in the above situation, but just goes to show how it can all backfire, even for a good song.
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Funny. I heard one of my songs on hold to Verizon. I have no idea whether it repeated.
My nightmare is to get on an elevator and hear my music. It’s already happened for Kenny G.
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My nightmare is to get on an elevator and hear my music. It’s already happened for Kenny G. I think Kenny actually recorded some of that music in an elevator 
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Radio is bad about playing a song to death. Stairway To Heaven, You Light Up My Life, Folsom Prison Blues are a few of the songs that have been beat to death by too much radio play.
I've always wondered if current day radio programmers actually listen to radio. I hope so because not many other people seem to.
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Unless you are fortunate to have an independent FM station like the one near me in Woodstock, most of the programming up and down the dial (when there were dials) is done by a few corporations such as Clear Channel.
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My nightmare is to get on an elevator and hear my music. It’s already happened for Kenny G.
I always figured that hearing ones music in an elevator would be the epitome of success. And it HAS to be a version done by the 101 Strings Orchestra. The ultimate.
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The saving grace for radio today is digital, HD radio. Many FM stations in this area provide two to four streams with some surprising variety and very little overlap. If you believe HD has to be expensive, it doesn't have to be. BestBuy offers a tabletop for $49 US. Check it out +++ HERE +++ . I purchased one for my wife. She keeps it in the kitchen and uses it daily. Plus it sounds really, really good.
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Jim, FM has been a hobby of mine since the early 70s when I stuck a dedicated FM antenna, rotor, and booster on the roof to pull FM stations from Boston, New York City and even one from Philadelphia. But the last time I looked at the tables, there were no HD FM stations transmitting within range of here.
One can dream. In the meantime, I have Sirius XM and Pandora on my phone, connected to the studio speakers. It sounds great, but they have their own problems of repetition in their programming.
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FM antenna on a rotor! Ah, one can only dream. Satellite and internet streaming is a good alternative and supplement to HD radio. Digital radio and television share the same achilles heel, transmission range. The market size of every broadcasting station shrank as compared to the size of the market each had during the analog era. That effectively means the boondocks is a bigger area now than it has ever been. Sorry Matt. 
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Why would that be a backfire? The song was licensed for that use and folks get paid every time it plays.
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The absolute worst on-hold music I've ever heard was when I was holding for tech help for over an hour. I put it on the speaker phone while I worked at other things.
It was generic smooth jazz type music that was a 45 second loop that repeated over and over and over and over.....
And if that wasn't bad enough, at the loop point the tempo didn't match after the loop point which made it seem like a glitch. That made the on-hold music hard to ignore.
And what about those other on-hold robots that interrupt the song every minute or two to say something like, "Your all is important to us. Please hold while we ignore you." (OK I changed the second sentence to what the meant, not what they actually said.)
But then, if you are on-hold and there is complete silence, you sit there wondering if you got dropped or not.
My answer --- Hire more help --- Who can afford to buy products if nobody has a job?
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I'm under the strong impression that even the most beautiful song in the world will sound like nails on a chalkboard when overplayed to the extreme. When I was younger I wasn't into the Beatles because they were played literally everywhere I went. On the radio, in malls, at restaurants, on TV commercials - all the time. It took me until my late teens to start really appreciating them. But as great as a band as they are - boy, are they overplayed. It's a shame sometimes. Something about Blackbird doesn't hit me the same way the 900th time.
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One of the more captive audiences is skiers riding up the lift, then skiing down. Someone had fed the jukebox in the lodge which was piped all over the mountain. How did we feel when Petula Clarke sang Downtown for the twentieth consecutive time?
Answer: we fed the jukebox ourselves and selected a flip side of Yoko Ono, screaming. The juke box was quickly silenced.
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Ahhh, if only I could experience the "problem" of having my music overplayed!
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When we went to visit my sister and brother-in-law in England (he was stationed there with the US Navy), we took a trip to a bunch of well-known towns (Salisbury, Canterbury, Battle, etc.)
In Canterbury, we spent the evening with the locals at the Thomas Beckett Pub (but of course) and quickly found that per the pub owner, you could play anything on the jukebox you wanted as long as it was Frank Sinatra. Let's just say "he did it his way" many times that night.
And we closed down the bar with them, but had a wonderful time experiencing local lore. We drank with the head of the Arch-Bishop's security detail (an American ex-pat), a fine arts dealer (who was a lot of fun, but I suspect had some, let's just say suspect ties), and the owner of the pub (who clearly was its best customer).
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It's funny that we're not so much bothered by repetition in a song, but we're bothered by hearing the song itself repeated numerous times. I wonder where the divide is between when something being repeated is appealing or too much.
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I remember learning early on that, when improvising jazz, if you make a mistake, play the same thing again. They will think you meant it and it will make more sense!
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I remember learning early on that, when improvising jazz, if you make a mistake, play the same thing again. They will think you meant it and it will make more sense! That is exactly what I told my students. It is exactly what I did myself many times 
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And the guitar player can always do it convincingly with a big smile on his face! Wonder if it applies to chords as well or playing in the wrong key?
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And the guitar player can always do it convincingly with a big smile on his face! Hey! I resemble that remark!
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Whenever I get something stuck in the back of my throat, I dislodge it by drinking a beer.
It's called the Heineken Maneuver.
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