Thanks Charlie, your posts area great! I put a link to this last post of your in my "after jam mix down notes." so I can remember to come back to it at exactly the time I need to read it again.

This is what I didn't know that explains how I got lost regarding Rharv's ACW comments.
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Regarding the ACW in RealBand and Band in a Box, The ACW not only analyzes the chords but also determines the correct Key and creates a tempo map. It is a very useful and powerful tool to work with live recordings.

Its one of those things where I sense there is something I might be able to use but I can't quite figure it out yet. Others might find what you wrote here useful to of course.

The interesting thing about what I am doing is I don't want my uploads of the jams to sound cloud to be too perfect. It is a "rusty relaxed social jazz Karaoke jams" group and if my recording is too perfect it might scare the rusty members away from coming out (a theory at this point). Our members are for the most part former players who went to school to study music and tried but decided it was not the best place to be financially and have become rusty but do not want to totally give it up so they keep the skill at a rusty level for fun and social purposes. I encourage people in the group to buy BIAB to practice and we use it to fill in when musicians are missing. This is why I love your statement below.

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If you don't already do so, learn to play with a click track. It is a wonderful thing. It does not kill the groove of a song as some will try to tell you and it is a learned skill that anyone can develop. It will make your performance better and your life in music so much easier...


Ever since age 13 when I started I only play without some sort of a clicker (metronome, recorded rhythm guitar, cakewalk, now BIAB). I only practice without a clicker when I am learning something totally new and am so poor at it I can't maintain speed. So I know the benefits well. For our jams when a drummer comes out which has finally started happening I use something called the BIAB game where I use BIAB to count in our group and turn off the instruments and I see how we kept time relative to BIAB. I am pushing our drummer to use this for himself and his students. It is a lot of fun playing this game. Maybe I will copy your quote and figure out how to get our group members to be more enthusiastic with playing along with BIAB.

So as much as I don't want my playing to be perfect on the jam recordings I put on Soundcloud for the members to listen to I also don't want to let any really bad playing get up there to make the experience a bad one for them. So I made a recent change to my picking technique and it has a short term draw down and some bad notes came out. I did one overdub and a 2nd try at home was much better. I am thinking some of the techniques you mention might make it a bit faster.

So thanks again,
John


Last edited by bowlesj; 11/27/18 08:28 PM.
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