Originally Posted By: Noel96
Originally Posted By: Charlie Fogle
I'm tempted to offer a prize to see if anyone will answer the actual question asked. <grin>

It's specific, multiple RealTracks on the 'Soloist' track on the BIAB Mixer.

Hi Charlie,

My approach above let's a person do that if they want. It's just a matter of selecting different RT's and then setting their range of bars using the "Custom" function.

I still agree with those who say it's easier in RealBand. In RB, it's just a matter of selecting the bars one wants to have a solo in, select the RT and then generate. It takes all of about 10-20 seconds for partial regenerations.

Also, I just tried opening RealBand and loading one of 3:30 minute songs. It took about 30 seconds to load and to generate all the tracks.

Regards,
Noel


I don't disagree at all with you or the others. Each of you have given good answers and your answer is just one of several ways to do the task in BIAB. I also agree that even with several different ways to complete the task in BIAB, the preferred method seems to be to move the project to RealBand or a DAW. In fact, this past January, Dr. Gannon posted just after one of my rants on doing it in BIAB that RB was specifically developed to work with BIAB to do all of these advanced editing DAW features. So that, along with the lack of interest, questions and discussion posts that reference the true power of BIAB, I had slacked off my Do it in BIAB crusade.

In this post, time was not really the issue I was addressing but rather the lack of necessity and lack of convenience gained by moving the project to RB simply to generate a multi instrument solo track by redirecting the task solution out of BIAB. There are multiple ways to do this in BIAB that are both quick and simple and give you the control of volume automation, panning, changing by bar count, part marker or chorus and whether to have instruments play sequentially or simultaneously. My first point is these multiple ways are included in BIAB, including yours, and are neither workarounds nor convoluted. Second is that the 30 seconds to a minute it takes to open RB and load and generate a BIAB file is wasted time and unnecessary for the task regardless of the length of time it is. BIAB results are equal in quality to doing it in RB. Plus doing it in BIAB retains the current rendition that will be lost in the transition of the project into RealBand. In both 2019 and 2020 versions PG Music made significant enhancements to the Medley feature and created additional new Medleys Styles. They also introduced one variation of using this feature with "thickening". What the poster is asking is designed to be done in BIAB and with recent enhancements making it more versatile than prior versions but most replies read more into the question, anticipating the user being unsatisfied with the initial results or wanting more than what he asked for.

I posted my reply initially because at this point and time, I believe I'm more skilled and experienced with the process than Jim and felt I could better clarify the original posters confusion with Jim's reply to his initial question. Jim had experimented with combining Medleys and APT's without much success until I spent some time coaching him recently and filled some of the gaps for him. Once understanding, Jim's acceptance of the process and excitement to use and promote the process increased dramatically. Most of my answer to the -yes- was relevant to the process and the -no- portion dealt solely with where Jim expanded his answer to. There was a lot more information than necessary to answer the posters actual question. My last post listed the simple, easy method obtained with several clicks.

It's true that serious projects are better suited to be done using BIAB and a DAW, accompaniment tracks, songwriting, practicing, teaching, soundtracks, really any project except for those intended for commercial release are suitable to be done using nothing other than BIAB.





Last edited by Charlie Fogle; 06/05/20 07:22 AM.
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