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pg please pin this in the beginners forum please cos i dont want to keep on posting this. OR include as a guide for new beginners in your docs. i am posting this as i see the same q's over and over ad infinitum in these forums. A NICE STUDIO SET UP FOR BEGINNERS/ANYONE. AROUND 1.2 K IN COST. (THIS SET UP I USE AND I HAVE RECORDED IN BIG STUDIOS.) 1. biab and reaper for software. 2. xtra plug ins. pay 20 bucks for an issue of computer music magazine. great plug ins. see you tube for demos. YOU DONT NEED TO SPLASH OUT HUGE MONEY FOR PLUG INS. THE BUILT IN free PLUG INS IN BIAB AND REAPER ARE ALSO WONDERFULL.. (inside tip check out the free JESUSONIC plug ins in reaper. and also reaper stash.) 3. BUY A REFURBISHED COMPUTER WITH WARRANTY. eg. i5//i7 cpu , one or more ssd's, 8/16 gigs ram. 300 bucks. ive found refurbs often better than new !! AND you save a bunch of dollars. make sure it boots fast , thats the clue. 4. add a STARTECH external box that accepts ssd's. they are 40 bucks or so and look like a toaster. great for fast back ups from pc internal ssd or you can use as primary. 5. DONT USE ON BOARD SOUND. GET A PROPER INTERFACE. i use steinberg ur22. works a charm. great drivers. had it several years now. nice mic preamps. 6. A MIC , DONT USE DYNAMICS cos they need a lot of gain . USE A CONDENSER. i use this nice little tascam tm 80. under rated imho. its 80 buks. now before anyone crits me ive used multi thousand dollar mics . there are loads of other under 150 buck condensers. but the tm 80 doesnt need a strict 48v dc. the advantage of condensers over dynamic mics is you dont have to crank the usb interface mic preamp like one does with dynamics or need an in line preamp booster. i got a load of mics i hardly use lol. 7. dont overpay for fancy monitors/phones. i learnt that lesson the hard way. one reason being that the people listening to your song often are useing cheap speakers. remember often mixes done on 5k soffit monsters sometimes dont translate well to your bro's 50 buck boombox.
the above set up should yield grrreat results. irrespective of gear. songs are a ton of dedication and sweat. i compare the above to when i owned big studio gear , and i will say this is a golden age for cheap gear. often its how one uses the gear rather than the gear itself. i dont profess to have all the answers. just hoping to help newbies a little. keep laughing/be happy and make music. my moniker is "mystery muso".
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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Good info sir. Unfortunately, they do not generally pin user posts here. Most new folks are far too lazy and impatient to spend the time doing a search. I agree, stuff like this has been posted over and over again. It's a conundrum to say the least.
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sslechta.
re. lazy. your right. i would like a dollar for every time someones posted on a recording forum,, "i'm playing this midi file and adjusting the fader but the volume dont change". lol. i would be rich. people need to take the time to understand midi/embedded commands in the midi data stream. and buy a book on midi.
i'm happy to help people new to this crazy music life; its just that it gets a tad tiresome answering the same questions for the thousandth time. pg need faq's on questions like this cos it would save a ton of time. regards. mysterymuso. ps i like the tm 80 mic because it will run all the way down to 9vdc. so one isnt dependent on a strict 48 v dc phantom supply. btw nice rig you got. try reaper daw sometimes. i love it.
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my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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I hate to rain on anyone's parade but, without knowing the type of music one wants to make, any such list is useless. If a newbie blindly spends after reading, then such a list is worse than useless. The acoustic singer/songwriter, aspiring film composer and the fan of industrial have vastly different needs, for example.
The problem with such a pinned post is that many would not agree to your list. Count me among that crowd.
Reaper? Audacity? Cheapware or freeware with no phone support for a beginner? Can't agree to that for a second. No phone support is why I could never recommend a Steinberg ur22. Well, that and the fact that the UR22mkII is a much better interface as are all the new Fast USB 2 interfaces introduced since last October (all use the same DAC).
I had a simple support issue with Steinberg recently—the kind that no user group can help with, BTW. I received the email with the link I needed 10 days later. Yamaha is one of the largest music companies in the world and it took one of their divisions 10 days to email a support link. Ok, I'm a working professional and it wasn't a big deal but if I was a newbie, 10 days would be beyond unacceptable.
The MOTU M2 costs $5 more than the UR22mkII, uses the same DAC, has much better metering, comes with Performer Lite and has telephone support. Logic Pro X may be $199 but again, it has phone support (Apple doesn't advertise this but it does). BIAB has phone support. Beginners should buy interfaces and apps that let them talk to people when they're starting out and in a jam.
Likewise, telling any group blindly that certain items are not required is the biggest mistake. Again, it depends on the goal.
Unless you know the exact price and immediate availability of used gear "with a guaranty", the less said about that, the better.
I'm happy to make gear recommendations for beginners but only after I know the goals.
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mike. i was just trying to help beginners. have you ever tried reaper? there are avid fans useing it in EVERY music genre all over the world includeing these forums. big studios down to home set ups. if you peruse the reaper.fm forums you will see qoutes along the lines of "the biab and reaper combo is a well kept secret". perhaps you might like to share your beginners set up for each music genre. rap/rock/country/jazz/blues etc etc. ? respectfully. mysterymuso.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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I hate to rain on anyone's parade but, without knowing the type of music one wants to make, any such list is useless. If a newbie blindly spends after reading, then such a list is worse than useless. The acoustic singer/songwriter, aspiring film composer and the fan of industrial have vastly different needs, for example.
The problem with such a pinned post is that many would not agree to your list. Count me among that crowd.
Reaper? Audacity? Cheapware or freeware with no phone support for a beginner? Can't agree to that for a second. No phone support is why I could never recommend a Steinberg ur22. Well, that and the fact that the UR22mkII is a much better interface as are all the new Fast USB 2 interfaces introduced since last October (all use the same DAC).
I had a simple support issue with Steinberg recently—the kind that no user group can help with, BTW. I received the email with the link I needed 10 days later. Yamaha is one of the largest music companies in the world and it took one of their divisions 10 days to email a support link. Ok, I'm a working professional and it wasn't a big deal but if I was a newbie, 10 days would be beyond unacceptable.
The MOTU M2 costs $5 more than the UR22mkII, uses the same DAC, has much better metering, comes with Performer Lite and has telephone support. Logic Pro X may be $199 but again, it has phone support (Apple doesn't advertise this but it does). BIAB has phone support. Beginners should buy interfaces and apps that let them talk to people when they're starting out and in a jam.
Likewise, telling any group blindly that certain items are not required is the biggest mistake. Again, it depends on the goal.
Unless you know the exact price and immediate availability of used gear "with a guaranty", the less said about that, the better.
I'm happy to make gear recommendations for beginners but only after I know the goals. I'm totally with you. This list is totally useless without knowing the requirements and optimistic at best for a solution. I sing and do a lot of background vocals. I couldn't imagine using this list and yielding any good results. I won't even get into the product list. It seems to be based more on personal preference than fact. Also if you really want to prove that this works produce and release some music. Then I would be in a better position to judge.
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mike. have you ever tried reaper? I would never recommend an app or an interface to a beginner that doesn't have phone support. Ever. I've made my reasons clear. What I might do for myself has nothing to do with anything. With over 50 years experience in the record industry and using DAWs for nearly half that time, I am no beginner. There's a large community who thinks that all you need is an iPhone, ear buds and GarageBand. They are happy with the music they make and I'm not going to tell them they're wrong. I don't think they are except that I believe an iPad is better In fact, I'm about to knock out guide tracks for a band I work with using my iPad only. The other tracks will be created on iPhones, an old Boss recorder, an M2 into a Mac Mini and one of those Steinberg interfaces you like into a MacBook Pro. I'll assemble the results in my studio. All were beginners in March except myself. Again, because you didn't understand me the first time: What a person wants to do with a recording setup makes all the difference in what a person needs. There is no "one size fits all" here.
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mike. this will be my last comment on this subject as i am going through rehab after a major surgery. people can easily check on reaper by going to the pg biab win forum here at pgmusic and asking if people are happy with it. or the main reaper.fm forum.
i am not willing to get into a mac vs pc debate as this has been hashed out thousands of times over the years in various recording forums. eg. gearslutz.com has many threads on the subject. with pros and cons on both sides. lots of mac and pc threads. configs etc etc. also reaper.fm has forums for both mac and pc. lots of info.
frankly i'm not happy with any computer architectures currently. we are stuck STILL with slow cpu's for example. I yearn for the day when we have ultra high speed processors and busses etc. but until that day comes one works with what is offered by the marketplace. as everyone knows,, new product introductions are rapid these days.and obsolescence is just as rapid. thus i am carefull.
(yes i'm well aware of the M.2 as well as the new SSL interfaces.but i typically wait awhile on new products to see if there are any problems.)
its rather interesting you should mention telephone support as your major criteria because just the other day , an organisation ive trusted for years with their telephone support and instant accessibility was not available when i really really needed them, and didnt get back to me for 2 days. (note, the occasional time ive called pg phone support. no problem). even the most well run organisation can be flooded with calls, as they can only afford the overhead of so many people in a call centre. because call centres are a cost centre.
respectfully. mysterymuso
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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BIAB $129 PG Music Pro Pak Dp03 $330 Tascam 8 track Digital Multi Track Recorder _________ Total $469
No Mac/PC debate necessary. No external DAW required. The Unit has Proprietary built in DAW capable of completing a project from start to finish. No Latency. Hardware and PC VST compatible. No mic required, two included. XLR's available for external mics. No interface required. No electric mains required. Device can be operated on batteries. No knowledge of the goals or type of music user performs is necessary in order to recommend the unit... Excellent phone support by both companies. This combo satisfies all seven of the beginners home studio recommendations from the original poster. Recordings are indistinguishable from like/kind quality recordings made on expensive DAW/interface/comparable mic system or iPhone, ear buds and GarageBand. Completely compatible with all BIAB tracks from any version, release year and sound format. Super easy to set up and operate. Set up and operation can be mastered in less than an hour by a complete novice. ______________________
So: "What a person wants to do with a recording setup makes all the difference in what a person needs. There is no "one size fits all" here." is an incorrect statement.
A home studio is a recording path from a sound source input to a sound source output that provides the ability to archive audio/data. It can be as simple or complex as one wants or can afford and understands how to use.
This setup is capable of recording anything from a singer/songwriter, Karaoke singer, duo band, trio, 7 piece band, full orchestra or aspiring film composer because it has the necessary inputs and outputs to be configured and adapted to the recording environment.
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Charlie: We Tascam Guys gotta get hot on this Model 12. Introduced this year. I've been holding out, waiting for Tascam to get up to date with respect to computer compatibility. Not ready to write the DP-03 off, mind you, but not recomending it at this time.
Examples: (1) I build a BIAB backing track, render to six WAVs, want to quickly transfer those six tracks onto the recorder, tweak and reduce them to two or three. (2) I have a set of 24 songs on a 32G card. I want to go into a song and start doing some serious bouncing and mastering. I'm up against power limitations right away. (3) I want to isolate one track and run it through the Reaper or Audacity effects bank. In short, I want to be able to do all those things Willie can do in his $1M studio for a couple of grand. Is that asking too much?
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Charlie: We Tascam Guys gotta get hot on this Model 12. Introduced this year. I've been holding out, waiting for Tascam to get up to date with respect to computer compatibility. Not ready to write the DP-03 off, mind you, but not recomending it at this time.
Examples: (1) I build a BIAB backing track, render to six WAVs, want to quickly transfer those six tracks onto the recorder, tweak and reduce them to two or three. (2) I have a set of 24 songs on a 32G card. I want to go into a song and start doing some serious bouncing and mastering. I'm up against power limitations right away. (3) I want to isolate one track and run it through the Reaper or Audacity effects bank. In short, I want to be able to do all those things Willie can do in his $1M studio for a couple of grand. Is that asking too much?
Ed, thanks for your ciomment. Yes, the Model12,16 and 24 are exciting new gear and welcome additions to the recording scene. My recommendation of the DP03 was to demonstrate a bare minimum setup as a alternate to the DAW/audio interface system discussed above. The DP03 is a reasonable choice as the anchor of a home recording studio for beginners because it offers all of the basic necessities to compose and complete high quality recordings at both a reasonable cost and quite a manageable learning curve and it interacts wonderfully with any version of BIAB. There are definite benefits to a hardware and BIAB combination that enhances the potential product, complexity and arrangements of BIAB tracks that elevates BIAB tracks on par with tracks edited in a DAW. These tools, techniques are mostly ignored by users that move their tracks over to their DAW because there's no benefit to do it in BIAB over a DAW. There are however many benefits when using hardware rather than a DAW. BIAB functions as a digital multi track recorder so it can do a lot of advance edits, bounces, sub-mixes, smooth transitions, fade-in's, fade-out's, intros and outros. BIAB can also serve the function of virtual tracks for a digital recorder with a set number of physical tracks like the DP03. These digital multi track capabilities overcome all of the limitation you list in your comment above. I agree there are better choices but that by no means diminishes the DP03's capability to accomplish the task.
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... Yes, the Model 12,16 and 24 are exciting new gear and welcome additions to the recording scene. ...
Just a reminder, if I read the specs correctly, only the Model 12 functions as a DAW controller. I admit, the unit looks spectacular. I'm still a little put off by Tascam abandoning the FW-1884 even though it had in its possession updated drivers for Windows 10.
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... Yes, the Model 12,16 and 24 are exciting new gear and welcome additions to the recording scene. ...
Just a reminder, if I read the specs correctly, only the Model 12 functions as a DAW controller. I admit, the unit looks spectacular. I'm still a little put off by Tascam abandoning the FW-1884 even though it had in its possession updated drivers for Windows 10.
In my opinion, none of these hybrid units are 'best' choices in a studio that does not completely rely on a DAW for all processing. Even mundane tasks of punching in/out, recording additional tracks with the same instrument or mic are more efficiently, easier and quicker completed in the DAW rather than using the hardware device. The unit line from top to bottom continues Tascam's development decisions of compromise equipment. At the moment, the DP-24/32 units are hands down better choices for a dedicated home recording studio that's not completely dependent on a DAW for everything beyond tracking. The best choice for an ideal hybrid BIAB/hardware recording combination would be a joint venture between Tascam and PG Music to revive the Tascam 2488neoMarkII (3rd gen 2488 model) and integrate the entire BIAB program and Styles/RealTracks/SuperMidi for built-in access of the full program so the device would be similar in concept to the Digitech Trio but also a full blown 8 input, 24 track digital Multi track stand alone recorder. While this concept would work with any of the Porta-studio style digital multi track recorders including the DP-24/32 models but the Tascam 2488neoMarkII model is a better choice for several reasons. One, the Tascam 2488neoMarkII had aftermarket VGA video out capability so it would work with large size monitors. Second, it should be easy to adapt the units to larger, modern SSD Hard drives and the latest USB connections which would complete an up to date all in one unit with proprietary OS, DAW and BIAB...
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First part of this video good info. https://youtu.be/MlT5OIxEZXo
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Charlie: We Tascam Guys gotta get hot on this Model 12. Introduced this year. I've been holding out, waiting for Tascam to get up to date with respect to computer compatibility. Not ready to write the DP-03 off, mind you, but not recomending it at this time.
Examples: (1) I build a BIAB backing track, render to six WAVs, want to quickly transfer those six tracks onto the recorder, tweak and reduce them to two or three. (2) I have a set of 24 songs on a 32G card. I want to go into a song and start doing some serious bouncing and mastering. I'm up against power limitations right away. (3) I want to isolate one track and run it through the Reaper or Audacity effects bank. In short, I want to be able to do all those things Willie can do in his $1M studio for a couple of grand. Is that asking too much?
Ed, thanks for your ciomment. Yes, the Model12,16 and 24 are exciting new gear and welcome additions to the recording scene. My recommendation of the DP03 was to demonstrate a bare minimum setup as a alternate to the DAW/audio interface system discussed above. The DP03 is a reasonable choice as the anchor of a home recording studio for beginners because it offers all of the basic necessities to compose and complete high quality recordings at both a reasonable cost and quite a manageable learning curve and it interacts wonderfully with any version of BIAB. There are definite benefits to a hardware and BIAB combination that enhances the potential product, complexity and arrangements of BIAB tracks that elevates BIAB tracks on par with tracks edited in a DAW. These tools, techniques are mostly ignored by users that move their tracks over to their DAW because there's no benefit to do it in BIAB over a DAW. There are however many benefits when using hardware rather than a DAW. BIAB functions as a digital multi track recorder so it can do a lot of advance edits, bounces, sub-mixes, smooth transitions, fade-in's, fade-out's, intros and outros. BIAB can also serve the function of virtual tracks for a digital recorder with a set number of physical tracks like the DP03. These digital multi track capabilities overcome all of the limitation you list in your comment above. I agree there are better choices but that by no means diminishes the DP03's capability to accomplish the task. I'm with ya Charlie. I do ALL Vocals on a DP32. Especially important for me since a lot of my tracks have 3 and 4 part background harmonies. NO LATENCY, NO PROBLEMS WITH BUSS SPEED. Effects added at Pre-Fade so I can hear them while singing but not recording, etc... and I can easily export over to Cakewalk for mixing. I couldn't do without it.
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Songmen: I still use the same DP 03 I have had for years. Haven't yet found a good reason to change. Maybe the 12 will be it. Notice in the videos he is mastering with the dials...even multi band compression. This could be huge. Also, he demonstates how to import a track directly from a computer. Another bigly. Also. more power and larger SD. Have you had the unit shut down and complain it is being overworked? I have, many times.
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It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!
We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!
Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:
Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!
Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!
New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!
Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
- Playable RealTracks Set 4
- RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
- SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
- RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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