Originally Posted By: floyd jane

"They say it takes two, two to play the game
One to point the finger, and one to take the blame"

What a great line! A T-Shirt line. Nice.

I appreciate you mentioning the lyrics. This was the point where I decided to try and see how may times I could use the homonyms "to"/"two"/"too" in the lyric. whistle

Speaking of T-shirts, this was a sort of reverse version of the Ben Folds Five's "Song for the Dumped". That song has the line "And give me back my black t-shirt". I needed a rhyme for "key", and I really, really wanted to put in reference to a t-shirt in. But "tee" by itself wouldn't work, and I couldn't get "t-shirt to work, so I eventually figured something else out.

But it took me a long time before I was willing to let that go. cry

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"You can pick it up right now, or pick it off the lawn"
Nice!

Thanks! Probably my favorite bit in the song. I've resigned myself to the fact that everything I write is (unintentionally) half-remembered from somewhere else. So I'm sure someone far more clever than me said that.

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Mix sounds good. I thought the drums could be VERY slightly louder.

Good to hear!

The Vulf Compressor is adding a lot of punch to the drums, and bringing up the drums any more would have them clip.

So either I bring the master mix down to make headroom for the drums, or put a compressor/limiter on the drums to stop them from clipping.

I'll probably have my son show me his favorite limiter and how to use it properly. smile

Edit: He agrees the drums are low, and doesn't like the muddiness of the bass. The correct solution is the first option - lowering the other instruments. I'd also put the Stereo Widener after the Mastering Plugin, which is the wrong order. The master buss should have been at unity before sending the signal to the Mastering Plugin, so that needs to be corrected. And I'd lazily added the room effects to the buss rather than routing the instruments to the effects with a separate send so the amount of reverb on each instrument could be controlled. So there are a bunch of things he's got to fix. laugh

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I would imagine you (as the programmer) are responsible for the timing of the the lyrics - how the words are SUNG. If so, you did an AMAZING job. Cadence-wise this sounds like a real singer. And the vocal SOUND is as close (to "real") as I've heard from a generated voice. VERY impressive.

Thanks for noticing that! laugh

Yes, I'm basically working with a piano-roll style editor, so I've got control over the timing. I'll sketch out the melody before putting in the lyrics, but once the lyrics are added to the notes, I'll adjust them so they match the lyrics and the singer's voice.

And there are a lot of parameters I adjust on a note-to-note basis which help add to the expressiveness.

But as for the quality of the voice, that's a function of the software. And I think it's gotten measurably better in this new voicebank.

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And I liked the song!

Well, I can't ask for more than that! laugh

I always appreciate your feedback, thanks again!

-- David Cuny

My virtual singer development blog
Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

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