I am using Defender and the paid versions of cCleaner, Malwarebytes and Macrium Reflect. I have been using them for years with no problems; of course I don't go to pirate or other bad sites. I believe that if you don't support programs that you use then they will go away.

There are a couple of free programs that I use on occasion. They are rKill and ADWcleaner.

I may be wrong but I think that the purchased cCleaner and Malwarebytes have caught more bad actors then the free versions.


I think my wife has started to show the first signs of dementia.
She said she can't remember what she ever saw in me!

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware