I am using Defender and the paid versions of cCleaner, Malwarebytes and Macrium Reflect. I have been using them for years with no problems; of course I don't go to pirate or other bad sites. I believe that if you don't support programs that you use then they will go away.

There are a couple of free programs that I use on occasion. They are rKill and ADWcleaner.

I may be wrong but I think that the purchased cCleaner and Malwarebytes have caught more bad actors then the free versions.


You know you're getting old when a recliner and a heating pad is your idea of a hot date!

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware