Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,337
DrDan Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,337
I seem to have duplicate installs for BB on my F drive. There is the F:\BB which I believe is my entire BB 2022 install which I thought was the one and only.

But then I stumbled upon F:\Program Files\PGMusic Inc ( which i have now added "what is this").

Anyone recognize what these files are?? I plan to delete them since after renaming so far it has not caused any errors. But there is a lot of files in here which look to be unique?

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
Capture.JPG (37.65 KB, 165 downloads)

BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud (Tip: No need to create a SC account to hear music - just hit ESC ).

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,117
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,117
All those sub-directories on my system are dated 2018 and are empty, except for a new one last month (Playable RealTracks) that appears to have szforzando files in it. Seems to be OK.



BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,337
DrDan Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,337
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
All those sub-directories on my system are dated 2018 and are empty, except for a new one last month (Playable RealTracks) that appears to have szforzando files in it. Seems to be OK.



Thanks Matt,
Ya, some old empty folders, but I have 3.7G in these files. The lions share are in "Playable Real Tracks" from 12/5/21.

I don't like the fact that BIAB tends to place these files in so many places over the years. Since I changed the folder name these should now be effectively deleted. I will just leave them for a short time to see if athe program goes looking for them.


Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
Pic1.JPG (33.29 KB, 145 downloads)
Pic2.JPG (68.82 KB, 146 downloads)

BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud (Tip: No need to create a SC account to hear music - just hit ESC ).

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 193
T
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
T
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 193
I got exactly the same.

Check \Uninstall and there is a reference to HiQ Instruments for Sforzando.
Don't know if they're actually being used or not (sfz and wav-files).

All folders in PG Music Inc are dated 2021-12-05 except for Playable Realtracks.
Content in all folders, but I don't find any duplicates of any of these.

cheers
thomas


On the latest version
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 987
J
Expert
Offline
Expert
J
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 987
I have 5 Uninstall EXE files there so I ran all of them up to the point of continuing.

I looked at the properties of the file Uninstall HiQ Instruments for Sforzando in the Uninstall directory and it pointed to unins004.exe in the data directory.

I clicked on the file to start the executable and it brought up a window to ask me if I wanted to uninstall Playable Realtracks Set 01

At that time I cancelled the process.

Running uninst003.exe asks me if I want to uninstall HQ Instruments

Running uninst002.exe asks me if I want to uninstall Playable Realtracks Set 01 - Again

Running uninst001.exe asks me if I want to uninstall Playable Realtracks Set 01 - Again

Running uninst000.exe asks me if I want to uninstall HQ Instruments - Again

Now I re-installed BIAB totally from scratch at the beginning of December and these uninstall EXE files are dated anywhere from 3-2-2021 to 12-1-2021 to 12-3-2021

12-3-2021 is when I decided to delete all earlier installs of BIAB and start all over again with a brand new install since I upgraded a bunch of hardware at that time.

Looks like a bunch of hold overs from previous installs.

I also see quite a bit of SFZ files and one of these directories, Playable RealTracks, has dates of 12-13-2021 indicating these being part of my brand new install mentioned earlier.

I would be leary of deleting them at this time as it might mess up the Playable RealTracks.

My entire directory, including the sub-directories only takes up 3.75GB so I am not worried about the space it is using.


BIAB2025
Windows 10 Pro
WA6NCB
No Longer on a Crappy Laptop!
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,337
DrDan Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,337
Originally Posted By: jcland


I would be leary of deleting them at this time as it might mess up the Playable RealTracks.



Ya, I was leary, for about 15 minutes. Then I deleted them all. I don't tolerate messy installs very well and I needed the space. I will deal with it later if there is a problem. crazy


BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud (Tip: No need to create a SC account to hear music - just hit ESC ).

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 987
J
Expert
Offline
Expert
J
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 987
MusicStudent:

What you could do is if you have the following file from your account at BIAB

playable_realtracks01_sforzando.exe

You could run that install again for the Playable Realtracks Set 01 and see if it recreates the directory in F:\Program Files\PGMusic Inc on your computer.

If it does, then you know you need to keep it.



BIAB2025
Windows 10 Pro
WA6NCB
No Longer on a Crappy Laptop!
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 987
J
Expert
Offline
Expert
J
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 987
I just renamed my directory PG Music Inc to PGG Music Inc and reinstalled the exe file and that is exactly where it needs to install the files necessary for the Playable Realtracks.

You might want to reconsider putting it back in since that is where the program points to.

If you reinstall it, read each install window before clicking the next install button. It clearly says where it intends to install the necessary files and that was PG Music Inc

It's not a messy install, it is where the program intended it to be.

What is interesting is when I did this current install, all of the other 'old' files were not there so indeed they were leftovers and that would be the messy portion, all the old stuff left over from earlier installs, not related to Playable Realtracks.

I have 726 files that it just now installed in the Playable Realtracks Directory. Those are all legit files all with a date of today.



Last edited by jcland; 01/31/22 06:19 AM.

BIAB2025
Windows 10 Pro
WA6NCB
No Longer on a Crappy Laptop!
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,337
DrDan Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,337
Thanks for clarifing this. I see these instructions in the playable_realtracks01_sforzando.exe, so I can reinstall if and when needed. At this moment the 80GB for Spitfire Appassionata Strings is more of a priority. grin

Quote:
Playable RealTracks for Sforzando

These files should be installed to the default HiQ instruments sound bank location: C:\Program Files\PG Music Inc\Band-in-a-Box Sounds

In order to use these sounds, you need to also have:
(1) The Sforzando plugin, which is installed with the main Band-in-a-Box program.
(2) 'DX Settings\Playable RealTracks' subfolder in your Band-in-a-Box folder containing .tgs files. This is also installed with the main program.





BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud (Tip: No need to create a SC account to hear music - just hit ESC ).

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 7,421
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 7,421
This is the default and recommended location for HiQ Instruments and Playable RealTracks.
C:\Program Files\PG Music Inc\Band-in-a-Box Sounds

Both HiQ and PRT should be in the same location, otherwise some instruments won't work.

You could choose a different installation location if you need to, but you need to run the installer and choose the location there, rather than manually moving the folder in Explorer. If you just move the folder somewhere else, Sforzando won't know where to find the files.


Andrew
PG Music Inc.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,337
DrDan Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,337
Got it.

I actually got my first error message today. So, I have reinstalled all the files back where they belong.

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
Capture.PNG (95.34 KB, 30 downloads)

BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud (Tip: No need to create a SC account to hear music - just hit ESC ).

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!

XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!

The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!

Ready to take your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 experience to the next level? Now’s the perfect time! Expand your style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs—packed with a wide variety of genres to inspire your next musical creation.

What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?

XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-9 includes 900 styles!

Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). With over 3,500 styles (and 35 MIDI styles) included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-20, the possibilities are endless!

Get the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.

Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!

Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!

It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!

We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!

Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:

Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!

Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!

New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!

We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!

Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!

Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.

Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles

Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)

And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.

You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.

Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!

The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!

Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!

With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

  • The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
  • Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
  • Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
  • Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
  • Playable RealTracks Set 4
  • RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
  • SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
  • 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.

Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:

  • 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
  • Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
  • Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
  • RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe

Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!

New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!

Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!

We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!

If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!

Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!

Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Forum Statistics
Forums58
Topics84,646
Posts782,294
Members39,714
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
nah, Silver180, GamophVex, Larry Mac, Marco P
39,713 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 176
rsdean 117
WaoBand 113
Al-David 111
DC Ron 105
dcuny 89
Today's Birthdays
GAZollo, jazzman174, jypi
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5