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Oh! Excellent! Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks.
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Of course you do know you should never mix new software with current project work? New software can turn around and bite you at the worst of times. Don't underestimate the learning curve associated with this software. But you know that... 
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Of course you do know you should never mix new software with current project work? New software can turn around and bite you at the worst of times. Don't underestimate the learning curve associated with this software. But you know that... Oh totally! I've had some bad experiences in the past with updates gone wrong and all that jazz. Today, I have a pretty solid Cubase/Pro Tools setup and an awesome team to keep it running like clockwork. Yet I always keep an eye open for new tech (or in the case of BIAB, older tech that I didn't know about) that can help me do more :-)
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Anthony.
Heres some tips.
Really peruse the faq’s and vids in pg support…includeing tutorials on you tube.
Make sure you save your settings by saving option with patches.
If you have a big commission // project split it into more than one bb file.
In the style picker..dont just go thru a few styles when youve laid out in bb your chord arrangement. Ive found many golden nuggets of sound by not following standard procedures. For example i do mainly rock, and occasional ballad…but i might explore other styles outside the rock and ballad genres. Ie happy accidents. I know it can be a lot of work going thru thousands of styles..but ive some v interesting results.
I make my own custom drum intros , and dont bother bout metronome…so lets say i have a ballad in key of E i enter in bb e.d/e.d/e.d/e.d ie 4 bars lead in only playing drums. This also useful for drum solos in conjunction with part markers….also lets say you need a 12 bar drum solo…experiment with 12 bars of e.d with different part marker colors at each or other bar. The KEY is experiment cos bb is very deep.
A final tip as i dont have loads of time today….what i do is …lets say i’ve done my chord arrange, what i do is go thru loads of styles , and lets say i go “hmm i like that soloist”..then what i do is save…and i give the save a filename like 2356NICESOLO as the file name whereby the number is the bb instrument number OR i might save as INSTRUMENT ID + INSTRUMENT TYPE + COMMENT eg 857BASSVERYFUNKY…now i’m on pc so on mac things might be different…
what i’m trying to say and its very important is i apply my final chord arrange to a ton of styles and then as i come across nuggets i save…THUS on any song i might end up…like a song i’m doing now 40 saved files….
FROM THESE 40 saves i then assemble my final bb song file….think of it like in a big studio a project one auditions session musicians for a major project , and then one decides which musicians are in the band.
Hth
om
ps..and please keep an open mind, try reaper for mac from reaper.fm...try a test run. its fast and nimble with small footprint. if you doubt me read up the thousands of fans at reaper.fm. and talk to users who have moved from other daws.
happiness.
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 02/21/22 03:57 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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You may also want to look at "EDIT" "SONG FORM" "SONG FORM DIALOG" and generate your own Song Form.
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F5 is one way and it’s very powerful. Basically you generate a bunch of complete tracks but use F5 to Mute them where needed. The opposite command is called Back to Normal.
You can of course do this kind of editing in your DAW, but it’s non-destructive in BIAB too, to use Mute via the options in F5 at different bars.
One thing you will run into for song form is that BIAB uses the term ‘chorus’ in the jazz sense, meaning ‘once through the song’. For example, ‘take a chorus’ means to blow a solo once through the tune. There are a few things in Edit, Song Form you might like to look over.
EDIT: I see Song Form was mentioned. Good. There’s more. There’s almost always more in this program.
Last edited by Matt Finley; 02/21/22 07:03 AM.
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i Suggest you explore the user showcase choosing different genres where folks who use Band-in-a-Box post their creations and usually indicate which real tracks they use and sometimes other production details The user to user section can also help to ease the learning curve Of course the band in a box Mac forum is another resource User Joanne Cooper is also a resource worth checking out https://www.playiit.com/
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BIAB I think, now defaults to a linear structure as opposed to the previous multiple chorus format. Just enter the chords as you want to get the structure you want. Shame you don't have RB. I find it much easier to use for manipulating individual tracks and cutting and pasting large chunks of music.
Edit - at least that's how BIAB 2022 works. The mac version is still 2021.
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Thanks. Actually, SonicFire is definitely not the tool for me. That's absolutely fine. Better for you to know about it and not need it rather than the other way around 
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Anthony.
Heres some tips.
Really peruse the faq’s and vids in pg support…includeing tutorials on you tube.
Make sure you save your settings by saving option with patches.
If you have a big commission // project split it into more than one bb file.
In the style picker..dont just go thru a few styles when youve laid out in bb your chord arrangement. Ive found many golden nuggets of sound by not following standard procedures. For example i do mainly rock, and occasional ballad…but i might explore other styles outside the rock and ballad genres. Ie happy accidents. I know it can be a lot of work going thru thousands of styles..but ive some v interesting results.
I make my own custom drum intros , and dont bother bout metronome…so lets say i have a ballad in key of E i enter in bb e.d/e.d/e.d/e.d ie 4 bars lead in only playing drums. This also useful for drum solos in conjunction with part markers….also lets say you need a 12 bar drum solo…experiment with 12 bars of e.d with different part marker colors at each or other bar. The KEY is experiment cos bb is very deep.
A final tip as i dont have loads of time today….what i do is …lets say i’ve done my chord arrange, what i do is go thru loads of styles , and lets say i go “hmm i like that soloist”..then what i do is save…and i give the save a filename like 2356NICESOLO as the file name whereby the number is the bb instrument number OR i might save as INSTRUMENT ID + INSTRUMENT TYPE + COMMENT eg 857BASSVERYFUNKY…now i’m on pc so on mac things might be different…
what i’m trying to say and its very important is i apply my final chord arrange to a ton of styles and then as i come across nuggets i save…THUS on any song i might end up…like a song i’m doing now 40 saved files….
FROM THESE 40 saves i then assemble my final bb song file….think of it like in a big studio a project one auditions session musicians for a major project , and then one decides which musicians are in the band.
Thanks for all these great tips!
ps..and please keep an open mind, try reaper for mac from reaper.fm...try a test run. its fast and nimble with small footprint. if you doubt me read up the thousands of fans at reaper.fm. and talk to users who have moved from other daws.
happiness.
I know about Reaper, for sure. I've even made some plugins for it years ago. Now the reality is that film scoring is mostly done using one of the "heavy-hitter" DAWs (Cubase, DP, Logic, ...) and the mixing done with Pro Tools. My setup relies on Cubase, slave machines wired using VEPro, video on another slave runnning Video Sync 5 and everything routed to Pro Tools for stemming/mixing. You may also want to look at "EDIT" "SONG FORM" "SONG FORM DIALOG" and generate your own Song Form. Awesome! This is even more what I was looking for.
One thing you will run into for song form is that BIAB uses the term ‘chorus’ in the jazz sense, meaning ‘once through the song’. For example, ‘take a chorus’ means to blow a solo once through the tune. There are a few things in Edit, Song Form you might like to look over.
EDIT: I see Song Form was mentioned. Good. There’s more. There’s almost always more in this program.
This is something that was puzzling me, yes. Thanks for pointing it out. i Suggest you explore the user showcase choosing different genres where folks who use Band-in-a-Box post their creations and usually indicate which real tracks they use and sometimes other production details
Very good tip! Will do! I'm still going through the manual. Should be done shortly :-)
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You’ll find updates and other support info here including online manuals
You can save the pdf version in iOS/Mac books app
You could then markup the pdf in ways you find helpful
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Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
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- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
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- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
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- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Video: New User Interface (GUI)
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
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Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
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Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
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Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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