Originally Posted By: Lee N
I know this is like a huge rant, and of course, it is - but like you I do so in hope of change. If we stay quiet then things won't happen. BIAB is incredible and I use it almost daily. If there was any alternative then I would be gone, would have happened long ago. But there isn't so the more chance there is that they improve the workflow the more chance I'll stay loyal. We aren't that far away from being able to do a lot of this stuff with simplicity using DAWs and VSTs. My guess is within the next five years I won't be needing to use BIAB as often as I do because I'll just opt for the quicker, easier and more editable version of doing everything in the DAW. They currently still have the time and opportunity to stay ahead of the game but their time is running out.

I started with BIAB in 2012 and immediately recognized how behind the curve it was compared to other modern software. The changes since then have only been patchwork that in some ways make it even harder to use as new "features" (that sometimes are not finished) get bolted onto the program and in the way of workflow. I agree time is running out!

Originally Posted By: MarioD
IMHO I think they are doing wonders with some very old coding however it is time for a complete rewrite.

I agree 100%! It is amazing what I can get out of BIAB but it does need a complete rewrite. The two problems I see with that are 1) convincing PGM this is necessary and 2) I doubt they have a team that could do this.

Originally Posted By: Cerio
I agree, EZ Drummer 3 provides a beautiful example of a very well thought and executed GUI, which not only does not hinder the user's workflow, but also enhances the user's creativity.

Agreed! EZ Drummer 3 should be installed on every PGM programmer's computer and it should be studied as a great example of awesome software design!

I appreciate forum power-users who contribute their knowledge and share long-winded, convoluted work-arounds to the various warts we encounter with BIAB. I just wish they (and PGM) understood that these work-arounds should not be necessary in the first place! Using a piece of software in this manner sucks all of the fun and creativity out of the work.