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Mario asked for this thread, and I would also like to hear from others about how you use Toontracks stuff with BIAB. While auditing the new EZKeys software, I came across this boogie track. https://soundcloud.com/planobilly/toontracks-1?si=d919cf61654b450da711b6cb7d0aa573&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharingThe first four measures are EZKeys 2 only. The following 12 bars are EZKeys2 with an upright bass line, and the last 12 bars have the keyboard bass removed. The upright bass sound is from Trillian, but EZBass also has an upright bass plugin. Any of the midi tracks in BIAB can be played with this software. The drum track is Superior Drummer, which is a Toontracks product. Same track with a new instrument called Retro Pianet that came with EZKeys2 https://soundcloud.com/planobilly/toontracks-2?si=937d469c7f6b4ff1a7ce3a6118801878&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharingJust so you have something to compare this to, here is a live recording of the piano player who played with my band in LA. https://soundcloud.com/planobillydfw/sunday-morning-blues-on?si=661573d6ed8e43d88f568ecfd65c8f6d&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharingBilly
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“Amazing! I’ll be working with Jaco Pastorius, Charlie Parker, Art Tatum, and Buddy Rich, and you’re telling me it’s not that great of a gig?
“Well…” Saint Peter, hesitated, “God’s got this girlfriend who thinks she can sing…”
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Cool tunes! And a heck of a piano player on the third track, posted 10 years ago. How time flies!
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Les jours passèrent très vite et la conclusion arriva, il fallait échanger afin d'évaluer notre rencontre. For you who don't speak French, a rough translation of the above. "Time flies and the days passed very quickly."
LOL, the recording may have been posted to SoundCloud 10 years ago, but the recording could be twenty years old!
There is far less piano material in EZKeys than in BIAB, but I think it is an excellent add-on to BIAB.
I am still learning how to use EZBass. I have had Trilian for a while, and it is a good bass VST. Here is what exists and what it costs.
What is the best VST for bass sound?
The 5 Best Paid Bass VSTs
Spectrasonics Trilian [$299] Trilian by Spectrasonics is an award-winning, complete solution for virtual bass in your DAW. ...
IK Multimedia MODO Bass 2 [$299] ...
Toontrack EZbass [$179] ...
Waves Bass Slapper [$79] ...
Native Instruments Scarbee Rickenbacker [$99] ... ( somehow I got this one for free)
SubMission Audio Bass VST Packs [$89 – $139]
There are many ways to change the sound of bass lines that come from BIAB, but EZBass is pretty easy to use.
Billy
“Amazing! I’ll be working with Jaco Pastorius, Charlie Parker, Art Tatum, and Buddy Rich, and you’re telling me it’s not that great of a gig?
“Well…” Saint Peter, hesitated, “God’s got this girlfriend who thinks she can sing…”
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Cool Track.
This has a feel that reminded me of music I have listened to in the street in Europe. Accordion in France, and more string instruments style of music in Italy.
An accordion is a portable piano of sorts, I guess. I have very limited experience in Eastern Europe.
I am unfamiliar with Groove Agent but have the other software you mentioned.
What would be super cool is for some of us (Dan, for one) to do a Zoom chat to look at how all this stuff is being put together in a DAW. It is not always easy for me to understand the best ways to integrate all these different software packages. I have not had the time to get too deep into EZKeys2 yet.
On another note, I would be very interested to hear more about where you grew up and what life generally was like.
I can send you my cell and email via PM if you like. I also have WhatsApp, which is free to talk.
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“Amazing! I’ll be working with Jaco Pastorius, Charlie Parker, Art Tatum, and Buddy Rich, and you’re telling me it’s not that great of a gig?
“Well…” Saint Peter, hesitated, “God’s got this girlfriend who thinks she can sing…”
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Billy, Thanks! Groove Agent is a pretty complex multi drum VST module from Steinberg (Yamaha). I was tempted to get it for long time. Since I had Studio drummer and NI Abbey road drums it was kind of a hard decision. A deep sale came up that I could not resist  Main bait for me was fantastically sampled Percussion / Hand drum module. One of the best ones I have seen. No regrets. I think you can get a free trial... "It is not always easy for me to understand the best ways to integrate all these different software packages." Unfortunately plugin is not up to specs yet. So... The best way I found BIAB->DAW integration of sampled phrase libraries (such as Session guitarist series), Arpeggiator based synthesizers and Midi groove transformers such as EZkeys is through means of Chord Track. In most 3rd party VSTs mentioned above you can control playback complexity and nuances through their own engines. Meaning, you feed it triads + 7ths (through Chord Track) and you can get pretty cool stuff coming out of them. Plus you can always change something in a Chord Track to make better fit. Midi chord track can be: A) Exported grouped with all other MIDI tracks from BIAB (Save song as MIDI file). "Chord track" will be on a separate track of that MIDI file. B)Generating a chord track on any blank BIAB track dragging it out to DAW.
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rustyspoon,
Nice track.
Bass sounds good
was the bass midi or real track?
if midi, did you adjust it in BIAB/DAW.
if midi, what sound module did you use.
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mrgeeze,
Thanks.
Bass and Guitar are Real Tracks. All others are synths/MIDI.
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