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For better control of VSTi

Generate the chord SlashRoot on this track



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Even though I'm typing chords, I want only root or slash to come out.
Because there's some Vsti, the triad sounds are going to get messy.

For example, I typed C-G/B-Am-C/G

I just need C-B-A-G to have a voice.

So, can we add a function to Chord Track called "Only Root or Slash"?

Also, notice G/B, the chord should be B in B3, but why is it in B4. If you're in B4, it's very far away from C4 in front, and it doesn't sound good.

I don't want to go into the Piano Roll and edit it myself.

Sometimes I only need one note play Vsti

So,please add this function! thanks!

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C/C or Eb/Eb should be selectable (but currently is not).

Definitely +1 for slash chords to only produce the root note. This is a previously identified deficiency.

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You could mute all other chord instruments at that point, and let the bass alone play.

You can adjust the lowest note the bass will play, to try to avoid the register jumping. Options, Preferences, Arrange, Lowest bass note. Dropping the lowest possible note might encourage BIAB to choose the lower octave. Experiment. Manually editing the register of that note is the only other option I know.

Yes, I would love to see support for the chord root and slash root on the same note, for precise control of moving bass lines like in this case.


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
You could mute all other chord instruments at that point, and let the bass alone play.

You can adjust the lowest note the bass will play, to try to avoid the register jumping. Options, Preferences, Arrange, Lowest bass note. Dropping the lowest possible note might encourage BIAB to choose the lower octave. Experiment. Manually editing the register of that note is the only other option I know.

Yes, I would love to see support for the chord root and slash root on the same note, for precise control of moving bass lines like in this case.





Hi

BIAB 2023 for better use of VSTI. Introduced the ability to generate chords on tracks.
The purpose of BIAB is to make chords better using arpeggios on VSTI.

However, BIAB ignored the fact that many VST arpeggios, if made with chords, sometimes lead to too much sound and confusion.

Because the VSTI is designed to play many notes with one finger, it sounds better and more modern. This one finger is controlling the root of the chord, sometimes it's an inverted chord and then it's not the root. For example, G/B, it's going to play B instead of G.

Therefore, I hope there is an option to Generate the chord SlashRoot on this track

To make everything more time efficient, hopefully BIAB can do just that.
Let everyone choose when to play Vsti with Chord and when to play VSTI with root or SlashRoot.


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SBM is talking specifically about the "Chord Track" here.

I think a "Chord Track" that does not play a chord is an oxymoron and a recipe for confusion.

A means to set a normal track to play just the root or slash would appear a more appropriate solution.


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Thanks, Gordon. I don't really know what's being discussed here.


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Thanks, Gordon. I don't really know what's being discussed here.

It's a new feature added, I think, in 2023, where a track is dedicated to sending chords, rather than notes, to a VSTi or, I presume, to an external unit like an arranger.

I believe it was added specifically for that type of use, so making it not send chords would, to me at least, seem inappropriate. And normal tracks can do that anyway.

I think the fact that it's a new feature is taking people off-guard. I didn't recognise that when SBM originally posted, only later.

I think his request for the feature is quite reasonable, but on normal tracks, not on the Chord Track.

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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Thanks, Gordon. I don't really know what's being discussed here.


https://ufile.io/7ko09v94


A lot of the latest synthesizers don't work through chords. It's a root sound. A root note will do, not a chord.

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Originally Posted By: Gordon Scott
[quote=Matt Finley]

I think his request for the feature is quite reasonable, but on normal tracks, not on the Chord Track.


This is a video demo.
You can hear a root sound very well.
Triad, bad sound.

https://ufile.io/7ko09v94



BIAB should design a feature that lets us choose.
Sometimes I need a chord.
Most of the time you only need one note, a G chord needs a G, and a G/B chord needs a B note


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
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BIAB should design a feature that lets us choose.
Sometimes I need a chord.
Most of the time you only need one note, a G chord needs a G, and a G/B chord needs a B note

If you want single notes, why don't you just enter your own notes using the Notation editor, or the Piano Roll editor?


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Originally Posted By: AudioTrack

If you want single notes, why don't you just enter your own notes using the Notation editor, or the Piano Roll editor?




Of course I can type it in myself. But that would waste a lot of time.
Songs have to be changed from beginning to end.

I could even do without a Band in a box, I could do music with STUDIO ONE, but it would be a waste of time.

I don't like to edit in BIAB's PIANO ROLL. The songs are very long and deleting notes per chord is very tedious and time wasting. I hope BIAB can add a function to play only G notes of G chord and E notes of G/E chord.


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If you want single notes, why don't you just enter your own notes using the Notation editor, or the Piano Roll editor?

Of course I can type it in myself. But that would waste a lot of time.

My suggestion was never meant to waste your time. It was a workaround suggestion to (perhaps temporarily) solve your problem, and it is a method that I and many others certainly use. I don't consider it wasting time, as it produces the required result. I wish you good luck with your request.


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Originally Posted By: AudioTrack

My suggestion was never meant to waste your time. It was a workaround suggestion to (perhaps temporarily) solve your problem, and it is a method that I and many others certainly use. I don't consider it wasting time, as it produces the required result. I wish you good luck with your request.




Yes. Wish me luck.
By the way, do you use BIAB VST?


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
Of course I can type it in myself. But that would waste a lot of time.

There's a method of note entry recommended somewhere, where you record note timing by tapping out the rhythm on one key or pad and then use the notation editor to step through the notes in notation edit mode, with the cursor keys, adjusting the pitch up and down using the cursor keys. It's fairly quick, though of course not as quick as playing the notes or BIAB doing it for you.


I fully understand that you want one note only, but I'm not convinced personally that the "Chord Track" is the best place to do that.
I note that Mark Hayes disagrees with me in the other thread, so maybe I'm wrong.

When doing my own design work for hardware and software I try to keep things neatly partitioned and consistent. I worry that making a track specially devised for sending chords become a track that does not send chords in some circumstances will result in confusion and bugs. My concern is to do with the rationale of the code, especially when ordinary MIDI tracks can already easily send one note at a time. What you want, I believe, is to send one note at a time and specifically the root or slash note, whichever is the lower pitch.

I'll not say more, as it's a decision that must be made by PGM. I express only my personal opinion about it.


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Originally Posted By: Gordon Scott



Convenience is the most important reason I use BIAB. grin

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