Originally Posted by Bass Thumper
This is the second problem I have. Nothing can convince you.
Steve, I've given my explanation multiple times of what I consider the difference between intelligent and non-intelligent behavior.

If something cannot explain what it's doing, to me it's not an intelligent behavior. It may have utility, value, and mimic behavior that would require intelligence. But it's not an intelligent behavior, because intelligence knows what it's doing.

I've also explained why I don't consider them knowing what they are doing. That all may change tomorrow, or have already changed and not yet been published.

Sorry that it's not in the form you'd like, but I've also explained why I can't give a definition of intelligence: my understanding of intelligence is evolving. You should have asked me before I knew much about the topic. wink (Like you, I've been following this since, well... forever).

As you've noted, AI is not mature. We also don't have direct insight into much of how our brains work, and so throughout history, we've used analogies which have proved imperfect, from cogs and gears to switchboards to computer memory banks. The words we use are loaded with archaic implications - even the ones we hope are "crisp".

And while I find all this fascinating, I also find that there are many incomplete songs on my hard drive that I should be working with.

So thanks for the pleasant conversation, but I think I need to finish up some music instead of looking like I'm trying to move goalposts. laugh

-- David Cuny
My virtual singer development blog

Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?