DC - Hows this working out for you so far? I am watching, however, you are working in areas of BIAB that I never go, so can't exactlly tell. Be sure to let me know at the end just how practical this "reverse workflow" is for you.
Well, DrDan, this has been a journey just to get to the start of the journey I wanted to go on. Will certainly update on my technical resolution in this post, and the "reverse workflow" separately. THANKS for checking in! Ron
DC Ron BiaB Audiophile Presonus Studio One StudioCat DAW dual screen Presonus Faderport 16 Too many guitars (is that a thing?)
Ok, I figured it out. Kinda. The "base tempo" for the Audio track was incorrectly set at 120 BPM and it should have been the same as the song tempo of 118. Not sure how this happened, but I'm certain it was nothing I intentionally changed. I just don't monkey with settings that much. (Well, until the last two days anyway)
To fix: In Track View, right click on the Audio track and select Track Settings>Set Base Tempo. Enter the song tempo in the dialogue box and press ok. Easy Peasy. Now anyway.
I'll mark this as Resolved.
THANK YOU to Noel and Charlie for providing insights, testing the files and, most of all, keeping me focused on solutions and not the problem. You guys are the best of the best. Sincerely.
Back to the music now, at last...
Last edited by DC Ron; 01/06/2403:43 PM.
DC Ron BiaB Audiophile Presonus Studio One StudioCat DAW dual screen Presonus Faderport 16 Too many guitars (is that a thing?)
Charlie, the vocals do not start at bar 9. The last syllable of the first vocal phrase (the word "eyes") lands on beat 1 of bar 9. I linked a rough mix of the entire song file in the Support email above if you'd like to hear how it's supposed to sound. Understand you're not getting stretching with this audio file (neither is Noel) but I still am. So now there appears to be something about my install (which is new) or configuration (which hasn't changed in many years) or...something else?
THANK YOU for diving into this!!
No problem. Not being familiar with the song, I estimated using the lead in silence and the chord chart to guess vocals roughly started around bar 9. Knowing "eyes" lands on beat 1 of bar 9 would make it easy to precisely sync the lyrics to the music. My aim was to have the first beginning wav form to be just behind bar 9 start and I was able to accomplish that. Secondary was to see if any setting contained in your SGU was activating the time-stretch and apparently that doesn't seem to be the case. There are still many variables to weed out and find the source of the overall issue. I'll hang on the the two files and may do some further testing but my thoughts presently is PG Staff will probably be how it's ultimately solved.
Ok, I figured it out. Kinda. The "base tempo" for the Audio track was incorrectly set at 120 BPM and it should have been the same as the song tempo of 118. Not sure how this happened, but I'm certain it was nothing I intentionally changed. I just don't monkey with settings that much. (Well, until the last two days anyway)
To fix: In Track View, right click on the Audio track and select Track Settings>Set Base Tempo. Enter the song tempo in the dialogue box and press ok. Easy Peasy. Now anyway.
I'll mark this as Resolved.
THANK YOU to Noel and Charlie for providing insights, testing the files and, most of all, keeping me focused on solutions and not the problem. You guys are the best of the best. Sincerely.
Back to the music now, at last...
Thanks for updating the thread, Ron.
Setting the base tempo on an individual track basis is not something I'm familiar with. Well done on working it out!
As I wrote in the in the private message, what worked for me was to import the wav a second time while the original wav was still in place. This was my process...
1) Import wav and generate song. (The vocal tracks was misaligned.)
2) Without erasing or killing the imported wav, import it a second time. Make sure that "Overwrite existing audio" is selected.
3) Generate the song again. This time the vocals were aligned for me.
In light of your discovery, I'm guessing that the second import set the base tempo correctly to 118.
Charlie, no worries, I have what I need now. You may have missed the resolution posted a few minutes before your last post. THANKS again for all!
Noel, THANKS again for posting this and your resolution. What I DIDN'T do in testing your resolution was regenerate the song after the 2nd import. Oof!
At least I (and we) have a little more granularity on what is going on if anyone else experiences this and how to fix it. I still don't understand WHY, since I've imported audio dozens of times without issue before now. But I'm not going to worry about it. Done enough of THAT of late! Ha!
Enjoy the weekend!
DC Ron BiaB Audiophile Presonus Studio One StudioCat DAW dual screen Presonus Faderport 16 Too many guitars (is that a thing?)
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