Is this law only valid in the US? How could you enforce it if the server producing the AI was on Christmas Island, say.
Can one country now legislate for the rest of the world?
I guess it's a copyright thing so if France for example didn't have this law, then writing a new Edith Piaf song would be ok.
Just my thoughts as usual but it sounds like the technology has shown existing laws to be out of date where AI is concerned.
Most of the legal stuff written here applies only to the US, though how much difference that actually makes I'm unsure.
One of the issues may well be where a song is created vs from where it's streamed vs where it's played. We here from time to time of cases being brought in various countries, simply because there's a better chance of winning and/or the payouts are likely to be better.
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It just learns by reading, watching and listening just like humans. It is more prevalent than you think. Do you use a smartphone? Have you played with stem separation or chord recognition? It is better to learn how to use it for your situation.
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Yes, I was speaking figuratively. People learn through repetition too.
The real questions to play out in courts is whether or not it has broken any copyright laws.
Experts in AI say no. People on internet are all over the board on the topic.
Most likely copyright laws will have to change.
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Most likely. AI companies would love the laws to allow copyright to be assigned to AI created works.
Well, what's in the courts is the other way around but will be hard to prove when it creates at the pixel/bit level.
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Thanks, --- food for thought... Drum machine > Autotune > Samples > BIAB > AI plugins > AI music. Reply written by MS Copilot Chat GTP 3.5): Video summary:
The video, featuring Rick Beato and titled "Did AI Just End Music? (Now it’s Personal)," explores the impact of AI on music creation. It discusses AI-generated music platforms like Udio and Sunno AI, which allow users to create music with simple text prompts. The video delves into the history of computer-assisted music, the technical workings of AI music apps, and the ethical concerns surrounding their use of copyrighted material. It also examines the potential effects on the music industry and musicians' livelihoods.
**Highlights**: + [00:00:00] **Introduction to AI-generated music** * AI platforms can create complete songs from text prompts * Examples of AI-generated music in various genres are showcased + [00:03:04 ]**Impact on the music industry** * AI music systems could affect musicians and the industry * Discussion with musicians Rick Beato and Taryn Southern + [00:10:09] **Technical workings of AI music apps** * Explanation of neural networks and audio diffusion * Comparison of AI music apps like Udio and Sunno AI + [00:14:00] **Ethical concerns and copyright issues** * Debate over AI's use of copyrighted material * Open letter from artists against AI infringement + [00:16:14] **Future of music with AI** * Speculation on AI's role in music charts and creativity * Personal reflections on the use of AI in music creation
Whether AI's impact on music is good or bad can be subjective and depends on various perspectives.
From a **creative standpoint**, AI can be seen as a powerful tool that enables creators to generate music in new and innovative ways. It can help musicians experiment with different styles and sounds, and even assist those without musical training to create their own compositions.
However, from an **ethical standpoint**, there are concerns. The use of AI in music raises questions about copyright infringement, especially if the AI is trained on existing copyrighted music. This could potentially harm artists who rely on royalties from their work.
From an **industry standpoint**, the rise of AI-generated music could disrupt the traditional music industry. If AI becomes capable of producing chart-topping hits, it could potentially affect the livelihoods of professional musicians.
In conclusion, like any technology, AI in music has its pros and cons. It's important to have ongoing discussions about how to best use this technology in a way that benefits everyone involved.
How will PGM embrace? Here’s a sample response: Written by MS Copilot Chat GTP 3.5):
“AI’s impact on music is indeed profound and transformative. As PGM Peter Gannon Music, we recognize the potential of AI as a tool for creativity and innovation. However, we also understand the ethical and copyright concerns that come with it. We believe it’s crucial to have clear guidelines and policies for AI-generated music to ensure fair use and protect the rights of all artists. The rise of AI in music presents both opportunities and challenges for musicians. While it could open up new avenues for creativity, it could also disrupt traditional structures in the music industry. Looking ahead, we see a future where AI and musicians coexist and collaborate, each bringing unique value to the music creation process. We are excited to be part of this journey and are committed to navigating these changes in a way that respects and uplifts the music community.”
As Peter would say... Have Fun!
If you go listen to the whole video with Rick, he made a comment to the effect "when will you be a cover band for AI".
I think we will have AI "artist" who will become popular in the same way real artist are popular. If people like a song I don't think they will care if it is AI generated. If people like a video image I don't think they will care if it is real or not. This is really not something new. Snow White comes to mind.... I think we will have AI impersonaters the same way we have Elvis impersonaters. I also think the advancements in AI are coming in the very near future, less that two or three years.
Imagine that you had never seen Michel Jackson in person. Consider if he never existed and today through techonology someone created his likeness and whole body of work. Would those music videos be any less interesting?
One thing that has been consistently true is that technology continues to advance no matter what laws we put in place to prevent it. Even laws that address such serious issues such as nuclear proliferation are in general meaningless. Do you really think there is no condition that certain world actors would be stoped from pushing the button?
It's most likely not AI that we should fear, it is people. At least not in the near future.
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Billy
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+++ HERE +++ is an Associated Press article that details how artificial intelligence was used to create vocals for a new Randy Travis song.
Randy Travis is a an award winning country music singer who lost his voice to a stroke. +++ HERE +++ is a video of his new song.
This is so interesting. One of my YouTube subscribers told me about this a couple of days ago and I made a play along video. Nice song![video:youtube]Where that Came From (capo 4) by Randy Travis play along with scrolling guitar chords and lyrics [/video]
+++ HERE +++ is an Associated Press article that details how artificial intelligence was used to create vocals for a new Randy Travis song.
Nice song and vocals.
The idea of using AI for Randy's voice didn't come from his team, but from Warner Music Nashville Co-President Cris Lacy. My guess is that Warner Music thought the best way to introduce AI vocals was with a "feel good" story, and Randy was happy to oblige. In fact, that's exactly what they say in a press release:
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"The creation of 'Where That Came From' is an example of how the music industry can rewrite the rules of technology use within the creative community and harness the power of AI in a positive, fair, and honest way.
From a technological perspective, the AI vocals something more akin to RVC, in that they need a "real" vocalist to sing the song. James Dupré was that vocalist. He was someone who had toured with Randy after his stroke, performing as Randy's voice. So they'd obviously had a good working relationship.
The recording used for Randy's song was one that James had done decade earlier, but was never released.
I initially thought this was cool since everyone involved was fully informed, but that's not the full story.
Rolling Stone wrote that James "was just as surprised as everyone when he heard Randy Travis’s AI-assisted vocal", noting that "Dupré was stunned when he realized that it was actually his voice he was hearing, at least in part."
James was paid for the rights to use his performance. But Rolling Stone writes that the Warner rep "declined to specify whether it was a one-time work-for-hire payment or if Dupré will participate in royalties."
And instead of giving James "sung by" credit, Warner created a new “vocal bed” tag that was coincidentally ready be rolled out just in time for the song.
I've got to wonder: Warner got a hold of an AI team in London, supplied them with vocal stems to 54 of his songs, got together musicians to create the backing for the song, and paid producers to spent months to work on the track.
How could they have forgotten to contact James about using his vocals?
My gut feeling is that Warner wouldn't spend all that money on the song if there was the slightest chance that James wouldn't allow them to use his vocals. I'd bet that Warner's lawyers had already concluded James' track had been "work for hire", and conveniently could be used however Warner wanted. This included use as the basis of an AI vocal - something that didn't even exist when it was recorded.
I would hope that James a bit of additional compensation, because who wants to have the a feel good story about the ethical use of AI ruined by the "vocal bed" singer? At the same time, I doubt that they wanted to set a precedent of "vocal bed" tracks being eligible for royalties. If they were, they wouldn't have evaded the question when asked.
While some news articles were quick to point out that the basis of the song was James' performance, it was notably absent elsewhere.
James isn't even mentioned on the YouTube video credits, and reading articles like the one in The Los Angeles Times, you'd never know any vocalist other than Randy was involved in the creation of the song.
What's problematic is that James' performance of the song wasn't good enough to release, but it was good enough to use as the "vocal bed" that was overlaid with Randy Travis' voice. Not really surprising, though.
All in all, a bit less of a "feel good" story for me.
I have never worked for Warner but having worked for both Polygram and Universal I can say all this does not surprise me.
What they are willing to spend money on defines any logic.
Billy
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