Originally Posted by dcuny
Hi, Chay.
As usual, nicely arranged and mixed. I also hit the 4:00 "isn't it done", but that's more expectations about instrumentals in general than this song in particular.
Just a note about credits on the song. At the top of this forum, it states:
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If Band-in-a-Box or RealBand have been used, please provide information as to which styles or RealTracks were used
Elsewhere (I'm too lazy to look it up the original comment), Peter Gannon wrote:
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As mentioned elsewhere, please don't credit the RealTracks artists by name, as they didn't play directly on your CD.

Thanks for the response David. Your comment on crediting the session musicians brings up a couple of criticisms I have re this forum as there appears to be some arbitrariness in attitudes. So starting with whether or not to credit musicians, I've never come across any definitive statement by PG Music, only persons believing or having an opinion; but being rights and legality minded, PG can't dictate whether or not musicians are credited as they themselves list them in BiaB. I write on all of my YouTube posts re my BiaB sampled instrumentals:

"All instrumentals posted on YouTube under my name, with or without the "(aka =wAo= band)" added are my original compositions. The musicians are professional session artists under contract to PG Music. I select the instrument samples in BiaB, arrange the scores and mix the tracks in Audacity. Sadly, I'm informed that for various reasons PG Music recommends that the session musicians shouldn't be credited, but I really wish I was able to as without them my compositions are only files on my PC."

The "I'm informed" bit comes from what I've read re opinion on forums. If it actually is the case that PG Music recommends against it there are only 2 reasons that I can think of: (1) There's an extremely slight chance that anyone selling lots of copies of their material with BiaB samples just might have a session musician wanting a cut; and (2) Some session musicians will object to their being associated with a specific piece if they think it's crap. Re your quote, I don't recognise the name Peter Gannon - is he an employee of PG Music? But to continue, there's a big difference between naming the musicians on a for sale CD, on a not for sale CD intended only for distribution to friends and/or family, and also on online posts where the listeners are informed that the BiaB material is sampled. Here on the User Showcase everyone knows the given tracks are sampled, thus it's no big deal; but re arbitrariness: I can't think of the name offhand, but one regular poster who only gives links to SoundCloud always lists the sampled session musicians as the band without stating that they didn't actually recorded the posted material, but I've never come across anyone calling him out over this. I mention this as there's no other reason for you to comment on this thread it you're not criticising me for crediting the sampled session musicians.

Continuing re other arbitrariness, I was surprised some months ago when I first saw someone post their own material here with no BiaB samples in it and no-one batted an eyelid, while leaving positive comments. Awhile later someone else did the same and someone (possibly you?) commented that it doesn't actually state in the rules that one shouldn't post non-BiaB material. Then relatively recently someone new posted their own material and was criticised for it, then since then someone else also did and wasn't, again only receiving positive comments. So I actually think the moderators should rewrite the rules and state what is or isn't acceptable for posting. Other than such, I'm still appalled that someone was allowed to post a clear plagiarism and copyright infringement on the forum, which I mentioned on the post and also reported to the moderator, yet the post wasn't taken down. Are you aware of this:

Song lyrics and poetry - or any other short piece of writing - are not open to "fair usage". IE: as such are so short one can't quote a single line from such without infringing copyright. I alas no longer have the exact details, but around a decade ago when I first started self-publishing there was a case of an author who quoted one line from a Rolling Stones song in his book and he was sued for something like $10k as he didn't ask permission from the music publisher, who would have charged him a large fee anyway; but if you check online there are currently gazillions of lawsuits in which music publishers are suing AI companies for illegally using lyrics, not to mention the many against copyright theft in which payouts can go as high as $50 million. If the poster of the plagiarism I reported tried to sell his song he could be sued an enormous amount, not only for the main verses' melodies, but also that the 2nd lines of the 2 songs, using the same melody, end with the same words. A particularly mean publisher will sue for just posting such and claiming it's one's own original work, and I'd not be surprised if sites hosting such could also be sued, particularly if they've been informed about it.

https://blog.bookbaby.com/how-to-write/writing-tips/lyrics-in-books

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