i hope in this thread various user opinions can be offered re the topic of modern styles and sounds related to pg content..and details flushed out re what users want regarding the topic of modern songs.
(and note... apologies to FJ re commenting in your thread re..some of the issues developers face in keeping a large user base happy. it was a very nice thread you started re what pg has done for us users.
and to Mario..it seems you disagree with some of the questions i posed from a developers perspective.
so feel free to offer contrary opinions....i hope you find this fair on my part.)

heres what i'm wrestling with...

1..there is obviously a significant need by song creators into modern music who want to create there own modern songs....and it makes great sense as current young and future songsmiths get into music production....but how do pg music keep this group of users happy and stay as customers of pg ??
its obvious this segment of the market is very important.

2..what IS modern music ?? i thought i knew most genres of electronic music for example...
but silly me...its a vast topic with many sub genres. some of which i didnt know.
googling i found tons of sub genres of modern music. so how do pg address this ?

eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electronic_music_genres

its massive !!

3..how do the makers of modern sample libraries and plugins address the modern song creation market niche ? and how do they deal with customers that might have slow net services re massive sample libs ?
how do these makers also address customers that might get frustrated with menu after menu for users
to select modern sounds from ? its ok to say to have categories to make searches easier but then the songsmith will not discover maybe other categories with neat sounds due to restricted searches.
i face this conundrum day in/out..eg...i'm greedy...lol...ive found if , in pg's content, i restrict myself to use say just rock sounds/rt's..then i miss gold nuggets i could use from other genres. this is why on a serious song i go thru every single style and pg sound...because if i dont..i miss some great sounds.
i even do crazy stuff like apply a jazz style to a country song to see what sounds are exposed.
let me give an example of my own situation...i very nearly bought a new inexpensive piece of guitar gear awhile back that would give me a cornucopia lib of guitar sound emulations both vintage and modern..
but what stopped my purchase was the fact i would spend tons of time going thru the extensive menus.
which is a prob for me as i like to work fast when i'm in 'the zone'.

4..the pg styles wishlist. i notice when a user asks for a certain style or sound that pg respond with 'please give examples'... ive given such in as much detail as possible. eg the fact i absolutely love the heavy rock guitar sound pictures of mike durham and thus requested more mike please.
the stallion song in my sig would never have occurred but for the fact one day i stumbled on a mike rock sound and went 'wait a minute i can build a song around this'...thus the song was born.
ive mentioned the above because i suggest a user cant just ask for 'modern sounds'...what this might mean to one user might mean something completely different to another.
and lets not forget countless different cultures and languages around the world. maybe people in africa
or asia have a different interpretation of what modern songs mean to them.

5..given the above ...and breadth of the modern songs creation market its obvious no matter what pg tries to do some segments of the market will feel left out and cheesed off and will come on these forums and say...
'i want xyz content in biab'. its a no win situation for pg cos new users considering pg products might go...
'oh well if some current users arent happy maybe i'll stay away'..which is sad.

6..the ballooning content and features with no good solution conundrum.
i'd like a buck for each time i faced this in industry...i'd be rich...
ie no matter how hard the IT group strived for customer satisfaction it was impossible. user groups would badger us no end for new features and thus systems got sooo large it became a maintenance nightmare.
ie its a catch 22. or schroedingers proverbial box maybe ? lol. so how can pg...to meet demands for new content eg modern sound styles...do such without ensuing user complaints ?? already we have seen users complain about size of content and difficulty in plowing thru pg content and download times.
how do pg grown their content libs without cheesing off someone somewhere ??

there are many other thoughts i have...but please...if your gonna attack me...at least provide some practical workable solutions in the process. what ive strived to explain several times on these forums is there are numerous challenges for a developer trying to keep a diverse user base like pg's happy.
these relate to logistics , product developmen,t testing, and maintenance costs and a host of other considerations
re new content. just one simple example 'who do we use for the seapunk sub genre'...etc etc.

after lots of thought i have no perfect solutions frankly...so if anyone DOES...be my guest.
also let me leave you with this thought... its ok to say i want 'modern songs'...but its a bit like a prospective homeowner saying to an architect 'build me a house'...dont ya think ??...but then the architect will respond with 'well i need very detailed descriptions of your needs'. same with 'modern sounds or songs' lots of details need to be flushed out before the 'modern song house' can be built...ie....the devils in the details dont ya think ??
i hope i make some sense.

happiness.

om

Last edited by justanoldmuso; 06/09/24 06:02 PM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)