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Hi all
This is my first post on this forum, hope you all are well :-)
I've been a BiaB user since 2011 and bought some updates along the way.
I have some points that I have to get of my chest, here goes:
1) I've have a MacBook with M1 - so I searched the net to see if 2024 would run natively on apple silicon. And it looked that way - but to my surprise it doesn't. I contacted support to make sure that it wasn't my setup that was making in run in Rosetta2 mode. They sounded surprised that it didn't run natively, and promised to pass it on.
2) The stand alone DAW plugin runs natively, but when you open songs made in the main app, there are things that sound different.
3) The DAW plugin (AU) is missing shortcuts for copy/paste
4) The DAW plugin (both AU and Stand alone) is snappy, but so many things are missing. I really don't see the point in using them.
5) The main app crashes 2-3 times in an hours session (macOS Sonoma)
6) The menus are confusing - and when you search menu items, and click the result - it doesn't alway take you there.
7) Both the realtracks and super midi tracks I've used, makes bad decisions about octave shifts - ex walking bass going G A Bb B and jumps to C and octave lower. And no easy option to avoid the Bass going under deep E.
8) Realdrums makes fill ins from bar 2 to 3 after I inserted 2 bars intro - even set to 'simple arrangement'. Realdrums going from cymbals to brushes, makes the cymbal cut in an unnatural way.
9) Of the programs I use this has the most confusing user interface
10) It always takes to long to make the ending sound right - BiaB never gets it right by default. Ex start ending 2 bars early does weird things, or if you have Tonic chord for the last, the bass sometimes choose the 5'th as last note.
I really want Band in a Box to work, but as of now it's frustrating for me.
Thanks for listening
Kind regards
Brian
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While I don't have any answers, I hope that someone from PG Music might read and analyse these issues and offer some ways for the O/P to overcome the suggested issues and move forward.
As you have indicated that PG Music Support is involved ("They sounded surprised that it didn't run natively, and promised to pass it on."), it would possibly be beneficial to many others if PG Music identifies the cause and advise on the resolution of these issues.
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I've have a MacBook with M1 - so I searched the net to see if 2024 would run natively on apple silicon. And it looked that way - but to my surprise it doesn't. ("They sounded surprised that it didn't run natively, and promised to pass it on.") What surprise? BIAB is not Apple Silicon Native. It would be nice if it were... but it isn't. There is nothing to "pass on". Peter has posted about this many times over the last four years. The main app crashes 2-3 times in an hours session (macOS Sonoma) Most of us do not experience this. What build of Sonoma? The current build is 14.7. Some earlier builds were problematic.
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Realdrums going from cymbals to brushes, makes the cymbal cut in an unnatural way. Cymbal cut offs happen within a variety of circumstances under w10 as well BUT I can see why & how that happens. The recordings are sliced into phrases and if the cymbal carries across that edit it cuts out. To deal with this I simple cut & paste the same cymbal from the file in that Real Drum track's folder onto a percussion track in my DAW, match the levels, ensure the drum files have a common send/FX etc. and all is well. I use this also to change, swap, re-use drum fills etc. as I want to hear them. Most folk seem not to hear the edit or, if they do, don't care. It's a quick fix as far as I'm concerned and is a limitation of the way the source material needs to be edited to make the program work mas well as it does.
Cheers
rayc
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At times BIAB can be a frustrating tool.
The UI is complex, aged.
Sometimes it crashes for no good reason
Its a project over 3 decades old.
But mostly it works. Eventually you figure out a workflow that is good enough.
Important to remember- BIAB does NOT come with a "read my mind" switch.
It has no idea what you specifically want. Basically It knows what neighborhood you want to be in
For example , If you want to create an arrangement of a song in a certain key, at a certain bpm, in a certain style, its hard to beat.
There are some things you can tweak to change it, but you can't yell at the bass player and tell him to do specifically X at bar y without using midi or recording the line you want yourself.
For me its great.
I can machinate the output of a BIAB arrangement in my DAW a little bit and end up with pro level backing track.
Say Its a swing tune, It sounds just like swing AND Ron Carter's on the bass.. Thats a good enough groove for my level of playing.
For some of us, that's the wrench that BIAB is... A tool. Pretty damn good little combo if if you ask me.
THey show up on time, they play in tune, the drummer doesn't hit on your girlfriend. What's not to like.
For others that's not enough. They want to reproduce EXACTLY some part or arrangement.
Sometimes that does happen, but mostly not.
For that you need either midi or a bunch of musicians (or yourself who can play all the parts).
Anyway, OMIO.
Good Luck
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Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
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Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
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We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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