Just assuming all the legal questions and answers provided by David and others are correct, are they enforceable?

Assuming that AI-generated lyrics can not be copyrighted, how could it be proven in a court of law?

ChatGPT returned this line "KIller at the gate, they're hungry for more" at my request.

I say/swear I wrote that line. Can anyone prove in court that I did not write that line and it was written by an AI?

If there is no way to prove in a court of law that I did not write the lyric and that it was written by an AI then any legal issue relating to lyrics is meaningless. Obviously, if my lyrics said " On a dark desert highway" it would not matter who or how it was written.

Will Sapling and Copyleaks or others stand up in court as it relates to lyrics? I am not talking about copyright infringement issues.

If I get an idea from AI and then rewrite the lyric is it then my original work? How could it not be?

There are millions of musicians who write millions of songs. Who will check to see if they are legal or not as it relates to AI?

For better or worse, there are zillions of people who could give a damn less about questions of ethics. They are quite ready to lie, cheat, and steal for a profit. Therefore we must try to have laws to try to prevent that. The laws have to be enforceable to be of any use.

It is highly illegal to possess and sell Cocaine/stolen guns for example. The fact is, they are for sale on a huge number of street corners, and the laws that are supposed to prevent it can not be enforced basically because it is not economically feasible to do so.

With sound recordings, it should be easy to detect AI generation due to certain artifacts created by AI-generated sound. There is currently a recognizable sound signature in AI-generated recordings.

My guess is that for the most part, very few people will ever be prosecuted for lying about the use of AI.

Part of where I am going with all of this is "Are there other ways to get the results we are looking for other than legal ways"?

It is pretty obvious we can not legislate morality. We have been unable to enforce "our view" of morality by use of force. Traditional religious methods of trying to control morality and in decline.

Somehow we need to come up with a better plan.

About the idea that AI has effectively stolen words and music in huge amounts. Is there any possibility that statement is incorrect? ( I am not saying that statement is incorrect, just asking the question)

If I had spent the last seventy years listening to music and lyrics and used that information to create songs could it be said that I had effectively stolen words and music in huge amounts, small amounts?

Is it permissible to steal words and music in small amounts?

I think most of us would agree that the musicians who created the words and music have a right to own it.

Do they have a right to own the concepts involved and legally prevent AI from using the concepts?

Is Ai picking small parts of songs and sticking them together to produce a new song or has AI figured out the concepts necessary to create a song and is using that or both?

It appears that AI is becoming a big deal in the minds of many of us and causing a considerable amount of fear of loss and gain. Loss of music income for some and gain of music income for others.

I certainly did not anticipate the rabbet hole this thread has gone down...lol

Happy Holiday season to all,

Billy

“Amazing! I’ll be working with Jaco Pastorius, Charlie Parker, Art Tatum, and Buddy Rich, and you’re telling me it’s not that great of a gig?
“Well…” Saint Peter, hesitated, “God’s got this girlfriend who thinks she can sing…”