Originally Posted by Noel96
Gordon,

I suspect that you probably already know this. Others reading this thread might not, though, so I'll mention it.

The values used in the 'Humanize' settings are in PPQ, and since BIAB's default setup is 1 x 1/4 note = 120 PPQ in length, a change of 20 will give a swung 1/16th note variation; a change of 30 will give a 1/16th note variation; a change of 40 will give a triplet 1/8th note variation; a change of 60 will give an 1/8th note change, etc.
I didn't know, but I'd pretty much worked most of it out from the fields in the latter "Humanize Melody" dialog.
Half way down is "Change 8th Note Spacing from [61] to [68]". There's no hover help or anything I noticed in the manual, but I think that means that it spaces the even notes slightly further behind and changing 61 to 68 out of that 120 PPQ would create a mild swing effect. Reducing that 68 to 63 sounded better. But the fact is, that "straight" feel appears to be having slight swing put on it. Why? Straight is straight.

I imagine that the presets are trhe same for the 'straight' and 'swing' versions as they are in the presets in this dialog.

Originally Posted by Noel96
In other words, depending on how much you changed the values, it could be easy to end up with a value that is near some kind of 'swung' value. This doesn't appear to be evident on your graphic, though, as the small changes to the 1/8th notes seem tiny. In addition, the changes have also seemed to make the notes sightly late rather than a mixture of late and early.
Each of the even notes is slightly later than the odd notes ... not a lot, but enough that it notices. I'd noticed before that the 'humanize' had always appeared to be a delay, though I hadn't tried to prove it. The dialog offers 'delay' and 'spacing', so yes, I think the notes are only ever delayed. I guess that's OK, though I'd expected some 'early' as well.

Originally Posted by Noel96
One other setting that may have impacted if you entered the notes in Notation Mode is the 'Tick Offset' option found under Notation Mode's options. By default, BIAB always sets this to automatic and the amount of offset added to notes as they are entered is dependent on the style chosen. I write a lot of melodies and I always disable this option because it sometimes makes the melodies sound uncomfortable to my ears. To check if this has been applied to melodies, simply open Notation Editor and then select the "Staff Roll Notation Mode". This makes it very easy to see how removed from the beat a note is.
That's useful to know. I'd probably imported MusicXML, as I think I created it from my score. Timings are precise and velocities are constant.

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