I've got the bulk of a good arrangement of a tune in BIAB. I did ACW, edited the chords, using a lot of Chord Options with pushes, a few MicroChords activities, etc. I did a bunch of Bar Settings activities as well as a bunch of Volume Automations to make string quartet sound more "real", etc.
I ended up with only the Vocal stem, and the Real Tracks are doing the rest. Now I want to import into RB to edit a few of the Real Tracks, mix my own vocals in, probably edit the form of the tune to add solos, etc. Can I do that? I'd like to not lose the Volume Automation edits and Bar Settings edits. Do these come over into RB?
What's the best way to import the file with an eye on keeping all BIAB edits?
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows Version 2026 (1237) 64 bit application RealBand 2026 (4) Windows 11 Home Intel(R) Core(TM) 5 120U (1.40 GHz) 12.0 GB (11.7 GB usable)
For a start, I chose "Open" and pointed to the .sgu file. The tracks have been imported, but they're way out of synch. The Vocal stem track is at maybe 75% speed, coming in really late and slow. The Bar Settings edits did not come with the track, so there's a lot of excess noise that needs editing out. I thought BIAB and RB worked together fairly seamlessly?
Last edited by Funkifized; 05/30/2510:54 AM.
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows Version 2026 (1237) 64 bit application RealBand 2026 (4) Windows 11 Home Intel(R) Core(TM) 5 120U (1.40 GHz) 12.0 GB (11.7 GB usable)
post the song somewhere so people can test it. more details would help re rb menu actions your useing to import the song. how are you opening the song ??
om
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
I could post it later once I'm done teaching for the day.
As far as opening the song, I'm just doing the basic File-->Open, point to the file in the dialogue box.
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows Version 2026 (1237) 64 bit application RealBand 2026 (4) Windows 11 Home Intel(R) Core(TM) 5 120U (1.40 GHz) 12.0 GB (11.7 GB usable)
While in Band-in-a-Box save each track as a wave file then use the wave files in RealBand.
I don't believe you will keep all your edits when moving a SGU file from Band-in-a-Box to RealBand. As a test, in Band-in-a-Box freeze all the tracks then save the SGU file under a different name. The new name gives you a working copy. Open the new name SGU file in RealBand.
You loose several features when moving out of Band-in-a-Box. Track freezing is one, MultiStyles is another and bar settings is another.
1..make sure that all saves from bb and rb go into SAME FOLDER. 2..open bb tracks view 3..open rb tracks view so its on screen by the side of bb tracks view. 4..with both track views open drag EACH bb track to a rb track. 5..NOTE...YOU MUST ENSURE AS I SAID THE TRACKS IN RB are saved into the same folder as bb song OTHERWISE youll be hunting around for the default where rb saves tracks if the user forgets to do such. SOOO...if your song folder for bb is called 'crazy funky street cats'; ENSURE the rb tracks are saved into the 'crazy funky street cats' folder.
report back if the above works for you with no anomolies.
@jim....and any lurkers.
the problem is rb does things bb doesnt as to features and vice versa. and thus imho the coders of both rb and bb need to update both bb and rb to establish commonality between both apps as this seems to cause confusion for new users. jim...with respect actually the points you make re rb not doing certain things have never stopped me doing a song in rb. lots of ways to do things and alternatives. for example with great respect i would far prefer to do audio and midi editing in rb than bb which is a dogs breakfast imho by comparison. rb tracks view is king imho. plus in rb...its superior in handling imho odd time sigs etc etc. while bb's advantage is speed of generation. as i said plusses and minuses of each. some seasoned rb users ive talked to have done 100 songs in rb. ive lost count myself how many songs ...both bb and rb have their 'quirks'. (for any lurkers see some of my tips in pg tips forum re getting a song down fast in rb.)
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 05/31/2504:58 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
the problem is rb does things bb doesnt as to features and vice versa. Very true. The features in Band-in-a-Box and the features in RealBand complement each other. It is helpful for a user to be familiar with the strengths and weaknesses of both programs. and thus imho the coders of both rb and bb need to update both bb and rb to establish commonality between both apps as this seems to cause confusion for new users. jim...with respect actually the points you make re rb not doing certain things have never stopped me doing a song in rb. lots of ways to do things and alternatives.I did not say don't use RealBand. I said that not all the work Funkifized performed in Band-in-a-Box will accurately transfer to RealBand. I suggested one (of numerous) way he might accomplish what he wants to do. for example with great respect i would far prefer to do audio and midi editing in rb than bb which is a dogs breakfast imho by comparison. rb tracks view is king imho. plus in rb...its superior in handling imho odd time sigs etc etc. while bb's advantage is speed of generation. as i said plusses and minuses of each. True.
@rharv
Quote
This is misleading... In RB default a track is 'frozen' automatically. So, if I freeze a track in Band-in-a-Box and then drag the BiaB frozen track to RealBand the RealBand track does not regenerate? Unless you specifically change it, it is for all intents and purposes froze Correct, RealBand only regenerates by user control. However, that is only after the initial generation is automatically performed.
/The exception is if you use RB in BiaB mode where it generates everything .. . // why would someone do that? By using RealBand in Band-in-a-Box mode do you mean where the first eight RealBand tracks act as legacy Band-in-a-Box midi tracks? I'm not sure what you mean by BiaB mode in RealBand.
Last edited by Jim Fogle; 05/31/2505:12 PM. Reason: typos.
that mode seems useless since BiaB does it faster .. I prefer working track by track *as do most RB users If every track keeps changing all willy-nilly how do you ever finish anything?
As for RB regenerating when opening a BiaB file, yes that happens, and your workaround by saving as audio is valid if you stayed in BiaB too long before moving to RB .. just my thoughts
*at one point enough RB users complained that a BiaB file opened in RB saved as a BiaB SGU/MGU in RB as default, and that got changed to saving as SEQ file because enough users thought that behavior was detrimental
Last edited by rharv; 05/31/2505:32 PM.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
The nice thing about RealBand's "Band-in-a-Box mode" is it transfers both RealTrack audio and the underlying midi. That makes it easy to edit the midi and come up with tracks that can complement and support the audio tracks.
Some great input here. I like to point out that while RB will not import all the BiaB features it does a lot of them and no other DAW will do most of this. So, the best thing to do is as mentioned above convert tracks you feel re just right into audio track and import them that way. Orrrrrr!!! even better once you get to the automation and mixing process move to RB first!
HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB/RB 2026, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 11 , Presonus Audiobox USB96
jim i wasnt trying to be negative in any way. i'm very respectfull re your pg knowledge. just concerned about 'lurkers' thats all.
@Funk.
my studio is being rearranged right now but i seem to remember there is a trick in getting the underlying midi of a bb audio track. so do these tests....not guaranteeing anything.
1..firstly before the test save your sgu so you have backup. 2..try this...drag the audio tracks into rb...and THEN... 3..delete in bb each audio track and you should get a bb message 'wanna keep the midi ?'....say yes...then... 4..drag across the midi track to rb.
see if the above works....another way.. 1..export the songs bb midi file and then import into rb. 2.then drag the audio tracks into rb.
remember bb has a drop station top left you can use also.
as i said i'm not at the pc right now. it would help if you posted the sgu somewhere so the rest of us can see which methods work the easiest and fastest....because there are various alternatives. and nothing beats trying things and running tests with your sgu.
happiness
om
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 06/01/2504:54 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
I've got the bulk of a good arrangement of a tune in BIAB. I did ACW, edited the chords, using a lot of Chord Options with pushes, a few MicroChords activities, etc. I did a bunch of Bar Settings activities as well as a bunch of Volume Automations to make string quartet sound more "real", etc.
I ended up with only the Vocal stem, and the Real Tracks are doing the rest. Now I want to import into RB to edit a few of the Real Tracks, mix my own vocals in, probably edit the form of the tune to add solos, etc. Can I do that? I'd like to not lose the Volume Automation edits and Bar Settings edits. Do these come over into RB?
What's the best way to import the file with an eye on keeping all BIAB edits?
It sounds like you want those BiaB tracks in RB exactly how they sound now - Export it all as Audio tracks and Import those to RB. That's really the best way considering how far you are in the process.
The resulting wav files should incorporate into the render and sound the same in RB as far as automations and such. Expected Caveat: In RB you won't be able to go back and undo something already done in BiaB (prior)
// Which, again, is why many users move to RB earlier; to do volume automation and selected RT edits (etc.)
Last edited by rharv; 06/01/2510:32 AM.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
So, is that to say that volume automation, RT edits, micro chord edits, etc., are easier to do in RB?
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows Version 2026 (1237) 64 bit application RealBand 2026 (4) Windows 11 Home Intel(R) Core(TM) 5 120U (1.40 GHz) 12.0 GB (11.7 GB usable)
I find Volume automation and Rt or audio edits easier. Micro chords i have not done there other than to check it works. Once i have my basic tracks i move on to RB for the most part.
HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB/RB 2026, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 11 , Presonus Audiobox USB96
as ive said before i really think that pg need to post a table of feature differences between bb and rb.
re volume automation i'll be totally frank. ive found it too 'fiddly' no matter which daw i try. drives me bonkers putting all the points in and mucking around. for someone like myself with vision problems...tho' improved now due to some brilliant eye docs vol auto is a pita. i can never get it the way i want and end up often doing things manually. eg if a vocal note or section is too high or low i have to drill down into the waveform and do editing.
if one wants to understand rb think of a marriage one often sees between big film stars. some marriages have lasted decades while others a few months. same with rb...some people walk away after a 'look see' and others persist with rb. lmao...why my wife persists with me i have no idea. she deserves a zillion gold medals.
thus to realise the potential of rb ya gotta persist as it can be exacting but also very exciting when ya delve into it. but what isnt in life ? ive found all music apps/daws have their idiosyncracies. just gotta dive right in and get to it. bottom line is songs are loads of work no matter what one uses.
happiness.
om
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
This is a really frustrating activity. I can create a song in BIAB, and supposed to be able to edit it in a more DAW-like fashion in RB, but there are apparently a number of undocumented hoops to jump through to make this happen. I'm dealing with a piano-and-voice arrangement that I want to add a band to. Using File->Open and picking the .sgu file brings in the stems, but there is some sort of tempo problem, so they don't play well together. In RB, I muted the stems except for the Master Stem, because the other stems are wildly out of tempo with everything else.
I suppose I could redo the stems from the Master Stem, but I can't see how to do that in RB.
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows Version 2026 (1237) 64 bit application RealBand 2026 (4) Windows 11 Home Intel(R) Core(TM) 5 120U (1.40 GHz) 12.0 GB (11.7 GB usable)
Okay, this is beyond vexxing. Importing an .sgu file through standard Open->File does not work even remotely correctly. This really needs to be addressed by the company. It's useless.
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows Version 2026 (1237) 64 bit application RealBand 2026 (4) Windows 11 Home Intel(R) Core(TM) 5 120U (1.40 GHz) 12.0 GB (11.7 GB usable)
< It sounds like you want those BiaB tracks in RB exactly how they sound now - Export it all as Audio tracks and Import those to RB. >
Yes. This is how to use BIAB tracks exactly as they sound in BIAB when imported into RB or any DAW.
Originally Posted by Funkifized
Okay, this is beyond vexxing. Importing an .sgu file through standard Open->File does not work even remotely correctly. This really needs to be addressed by the company. It's useless.
No. Open and import are not the same. Two different functions for two different outcomes of the tracks.
RealBand is BIAB lite. Opening an SGU file has limited BIAB features apparently some by PGM design and others because of confusion that BIAB is not a DAW. You want to import tracks to retain the BIAB processing. Opening a BIAB file is meant to merge BIAB features in a DAW environment. It's unique to PGM products.
Using the "Import" command under "File" does the same thing. Useless.
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows Version 2026 (1237) 64 bit application RealBand 2026 (4) Windows 11 Home Intel(R) Core(TM) 5 120U (1.40 GHz) 12.0 GB (11.7 GB usable)
How do I Export All as Audio? Exporting the whole .sgu track as Audio doesn't allow me to edit the separate tracks.
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows Version 2026 (1237) 64 bit application RealBand 2026 (4) Windows 11 Home Intel(R) Core(TM) 5 120U (1.40 GHz) 12.0 GB (11.7 GB usable)
I would be happy to do more of my editing in RB, if I knew how. Everyone has said to do the track in BIAB to start and do the heavy editing in RB. How are the Microchord/Chord Option functions worked in RB? Volume Automation? Bar Settings? I'm getting decent at working that stuff in BIAB, but not sure with RB. Right now, my Stems from the .sgu file are importing incorrectly to RB, coming in about a measure later than they should. I've done some work in RB, but few and far between, so that I can't figure out how to manually correct these errors, not to mention maybe figure out why the BIAB tracks are importing in correctly. Some of the Stems are importing in a slower tempo, so it's a mess.
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows Version 2026 (1237) 64 bit application RealBand 2026 (4) Windows 11 Home Intel(R) Core(TM) 5 120U (1.40 GHz) 12.0 GB (11.7 GB usable)
best bet is to post the sgu somewhere so people can see what is going on and thus give you help.
btw in bb how are doing the sgu save ?? i always do following SAVE >>>SPECIAL>>>PATCHES AND HARMONY
as i said before...you can just drag each bb track from bb tracks view to rb tracks view...have you tried this ??
note >>> editing of tracks in rb is superior...with various features not in bb.
dont expect bb and rb to do various things identically. eg rb has a usefull bars view but bb doesnt. see rb manual for more info. there are many other differences tween bb and rb.
one reason of many i like rb is lots more tracks than bb...now 256. so one has more track flexibility. eg its a doddle in rb to dupe a track... a trick i often do is dealing with vocs. i record a vocal track...dupe it to another track. the original i keep dry and the second i'll add fx to eg pg dxi echo chorus and then blend the two tracks. various songs in my sig used just pg dx fx on my vocs etc. eg pretty girl song.
hth.
om
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 06/26/2501:41 PM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
Dragging the BB tracks one-by-one to the RB tracks view is not working at all. Why have I never had this problem before? There isn't a documented way to open a BIAB file in RB?
Last edited by Funkifized; 06/26/2508:18 PM.
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows Version 2026 (1237) 64 bit application RealBand 2026 (4) Windows 11 Home Intel(R) Core(TM) 5 120U (1.40 GHz) 12.0 GB (11.7 GB usable)
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows Version 2026 (1237) 64 bit application RealBand 2026 (4) Windows 11 Home Intel(R) Core(TM) 5 120U (1.40 GHz) 12.0 GB (11.7 GB usable)
dragging from bb tracks view to rb tracks view works here.. detail your steps.
i just drag on each bb track name over to a rb track whether midi or audio. have you gone thru the rb manual in detail plus rb tips of the day plus rb faq's plus rb vids ?
heres the thing re rb....it DOES have a deep learning cycle. but if one sticks at it there are lots of neat things i havent seen in any other daw....and like recently...once a year i test out lots of different daws in case i can find something better.
contrary to what some might think here on pg...and which irks me and cheeses me off... i really DONT have any biases to any app. its simply that after trying lots of music apps yearly...like an old girlfriend flame...lol... i keep on coming back to rb. and i'm not the only one. there are various avid rb users here like rharv and rob helms who i understand like myself have done loads of songs....and various other rb users. rb quirks and all.
as an aside re daws....for years since its inception ive been an avid reaps daw user. but rb has features that even the great reaps doesnt. so to anyone..NO..i'm not biased towards rb. (i actually use reaps less these days as rb has added more features i need. i really feel sorry for Jeff Y the rb dev cos i'm always asking for more...lol....just like i used to ask for reaps...) the PROBLEM is with rb is because of its plethora of deep features... (a goldmine imho..) as i said its a steep learning cycle with lots of tricks....and...tbh even after years of useing rb i STILL go to myself 'oh you idiot OM why didnt you figure that out before'.
after a time funk youll develope your own methods re the bb/rb combo. eg a trick i use is to use the speed of genning in bb often and then drag the track into rb. thus a way of many is to use bb as an auditioneer of pg session musos and a track generator and then bop over to rb. SO its not a case of one over the other but the combo useing the strengths of each. in SOME cases tho eg winky time sigs i feel rb is the better solution as one can see the time sig denominator graphically in rb for each bar. i'm still experimenting with odd time sigs in rb.
in conclusion rb isnt a wham bam thank you xxxx app. it requires work cos its sooo deep.
hth.
om
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
Yeah, I simply opened the file in RB and it worked as expected. RB kept the frozen track(s) and generated some others and it all stayed in time. Not sure how you are getting the results you say you are.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
What seems to be different in yours is the lack of Stems that I've got. The stems are really the problem. Do they not import into RB correctly?
Some of the Stems import to the wrong measure, starting the recording a measure late. The other Stems are actually playing at a slower tempo, making the while thing a big mess, as you can imagine.
Now I got a suggestion from support to try Drag-And-Drop each track one at a time. I followed the video tutorial, which showed how to drag the track onto the DAW toolbar button to make the track into a WAV file. I saved the WAV files to the same folder as the .sgu file, and then dropped them into a new RB doc. Doing it that way worked perfectly, except I don't end up with chords in the Chord View, so can't edit the chord rhythms, shots, holds, etc.
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows Version 2026 (1237) 64 bit application RealBand 2026 (4) Windows 11 Home Intel(R) Core(TM) 5 120U (1.40 GHz) 12.0 GB (11.7 GB usable)
Oh, yes. That's the main way I tried this. That's the way I had been aware of for BIAB files in RB. I tried File-->Import after that. Same result. The only way that worked was using the DAW mode to change each track to WAV and Drag/Drop into the Tracks window.
The problem with that is that there's no chord changes in the Chord View. With the tracks all as WAV files, I don't (yet) know if I can change the rhythms in Chord Options, Micro Chords, etc.
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows Version 2026 (1237) 64 bit application RealBand 2026 (4) Windows 11 Home Intel(R) Core(TM) 5 120U (1.40 GHz) 12.0 GB (11.7 GB usable)
i think it best if you detail what your overall objective is here. eg it sounds like you have an existing audio/song you are trying to add pg content to ? thus the added use of the stem splitter ? please clarify.
you mentioned not getting chords in rb tracks view with one work method. if so as per rharvs post and graphic step one is to load up the bb sgu so you get the chords in rb chords and tracks view firstly. THEN do any other things you want to do. eg maybe you decide to generate an xtra track in bb thats not in the original sgu loaded into rb. so just drag the new bb genned track to a rb spare track.
please post back why you are also wanting to use the stem splitter. what is the overall objective ?? remember you can use the stem splitter in rb.
om
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 06/28/2504:39 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
Oh, yes. That's the main way I tried this. That's the way I had been aware of for BIAB files in RB. I tried File-->Import after that. Same result. The only way that worked was using the DAW mode to change each track to WAV and Drag/Drop into the Tracks window.
The problem with that is that there's no chord changes in the Chord View. With the tracks all as WAV files, I don't (yet) know if I can change the rhythms in Chord Options, Micro Chords, etc.
Sooo .. Open the file in RB, first, so you get the chords. THEN drag your stems into that file. /would that work?
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
I had the recording of the tune, which is piano/vocal. I used BIAB stem splitting to separate the vocal track. At that point, I used ACW to define the measures, equalize the tempo, and define the chords. Used Chord Options and Microchords to define the rhythms closer to the original performance. Sounded pretty good. Added a couple of Real Tracks for more of a band arrangement; bass, strings, etc.
Some of the piano performance sounded a little unnatural, and some of the string parts sounded unnatural in the attacks, so I decided to edit these in RB, as it's supposed to be better for audio editing. I'd also like to experiment with other rhythm section instrument Real Tracks, etc.
I'm using the chords gotten from ACW, the original voice stem, and then adding Real Tracks for my own arrangement. ACW and Stem Splitting has been done in BIAB, and now I want to edit in RB. My previous experience has been to simply File ->Open the .sgu file in RB to do more complicated edits to the tune, such as generating alternate instrument Real Tracks and possibly editing them to my taste.
However, it seems as though doing this is not working correctly with Stems from BIAB. It seems like a lot of extra steps to enter the chords by eye from the BIAB file, with chord pushes and MicroChords, into RB, and then load the Vocal Stem after, In order to arrange other Real Tracks for subsequent arranging.
Does this all make sense? I've gotten a good portion of the tune to sound the way I would like in BIAB, with Auto Analysis and Equalize Tempo, but want to use RB for further editing/adding instrumentation.
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows Version 2026 (1237) 64 bit application RealBand 2026 (4) Windows 11 Home Intel(R) Core(TM) 5 120U (1.40 GHz) 12.0 GB (11.7 GB usable)
ok i see.. as i suspected your trying to add content to an existing song. let me say upfront even with the state of current software engineering in music apps ive seen no perfect solution. (i used to develeope big industry apps.)
in summary i admire your persistence cos this isnt trivial work. i'm a happy go lucky fun bloke with tons of patience but sometimes one has to accept a ton of work is needed to reach ones goals with some songs.
ive failed many times in adding new content to old songs of mine that people like that were originally produced on tape. i find particularly the small tempo variances of tape can be an issue...more in fact than stem splitting which i find works rather well. (depending on the song).
frankly i fail many times because i'm trying to preserve the original song 'vibe' and 'sound picture' that people have told me they like while adding new content and ensuring i dont lose that original vibe. in summary ive got lots of old songs here that i just cant get right adding new content to....bugs the heck out of me. maybe i'm a dunce...lol...
given what you, i, and others are trying to do i think at the software engineering level there needs to be integration of the acw with the stem splitting feature. ie.. one feeds into the software the old song and the software spits out the chords plus varying tempo map plus the stems....and then the user does minor 'cleaning up'.
the ONLY solution i can suggest at this time and given how much work youve done in bb is to just use rb for audio editing. ie drag a track from bb into rb...do the editing...and then send it back to bb.
frankly given the complexity at this level i think due to rb's capability for fractional tempo handling and track editing and other features... (bars view and the way rb tracks view works plus 256 tracks...to cite a few examples...) that from git go it might have been better to try doing the shebang in rb. maybe on another song you might try useing rb from git go and see if its an easier alternative.
in closeing let me say from my experiences in software engineering imho the software tech is getting there these days but isnt perfected and might never be perfect....we shall see.
i wish you the best and admire the effort your putting into this.
happiness.
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 06/29/2505:16 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
Oh, yes. That's the main way I tried this. That's the way I had been aware of for BIAB files in RB. I tried File-->Import after that. Same result. The only way that worked was using the DAW mode to change each track to WAV and Drag/Drop into the Tracks window.
The problem with that is that there's no chord changes in the Chord View. With the tracks all as WAV files, I don't (yet) know if I can change the rhythms in Chord Options, Micro Chords, etc.
Sooo .. Open the file in RB, first, so you get the chords. THEN drag your stems into that file. /would that work?
Bears repeating
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
So, remove the stems from the BIAB file, save the .sgu file, open it in RB, then add the vocal Stem back in? I did do the Equalize Tempo thing in BIAB, so I'm not sure if the stem still has that alteration.
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows Version 2026 (1237) 64 bit application RealBand 2026 (4) Windows 11 Home Intel(R) Core(TM) 5 120U (1.40 GHz) 12.0 GB (11.7 GB usable)
I did that, and it seems to be what I'm looking for. I then deleted the old stems in RB, and the Drums track to Generate a different RD track, which I'm liking. Now I'm working on Volume Automation with Drum Stems, etc. I guess that should be a different post.
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows Version 2026 (1237) 64 bit application RealBand 2026 (4) Windows 11 Home Intel(R) Core(TM) 5 120U (1.40 GHz) 12.0 GB (11.7 GB usable)
Last Chance! The Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® Special Ends Today (May 31, 2026) at 11:59pm PDT!
Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PDT today!
We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.
Another exciting new addition is the amazing new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. View the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to transcribe an entire track or transcribe specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®.
There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!
Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Mac® to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!
Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.
If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Special Offers Extended Until May 31st!
Good news- we've extended our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® special offers until May 31, 2026!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 is packed with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can transcribe an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!
There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®.
When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PDT on May 31st, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.
Check out the Band-in-a-Box® for Mac packages page to find the best package for you.
Today's the Last Day of the Band-in-a-Box 2026® for Mac Special!
Order before 11:59pm PDT today (May 15, 2026) to save up to 50% off your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® upgrade and receive a FREE Bonus PAK loaded with great new Add-ons to use with this new version!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac - Special Offers End at 11:59pm PDT on Friday, May 15th, 2026!
Order before 11:59pm PDT on Friday, May 15th and SAVE up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® version 2026 for Mac Upgrade packages... and that's not all! With your version 2026 for Mac purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks... that's 222 NEW RealTracks available with version Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac!
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® today for as little as $49! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all available purchase options.
Learn more about the Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK here.
If you have any questions about which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We're here to help!
202 New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2026!
With Band-in-a-Box® 2026, we've released 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 468-488) in a variety of genres—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Funk & World (Sets 468-475):
Our new jazz, funk & blues RealTracks include a groovin’ collection of RealTracks and RealDrums! These include more requested “soul jazz” RealTracks featuring artists Neil Swainson (bass), Charles Treadway (organ), Brent Mason (guitar), and Wes Little (drums). There are new “smooth jazz” styles (4), which include a RealTracks first: muted trumpet, as well as slick new smooth jazz brushes options for drums. Blues lovers will be thrilled—there are more “classic acoustic blues” styles, including guitar (5), bass (4), and drums (10) with blues master Colin Linden, featuring understated and tasty background acoustic soloing, plus brushes drums and acoustic bass. There are also new electric blues RealTracks, including electric blues with PG favorite Johnny Hiland (3) and soulful electric slide guitar from Colin Linden (4). If you love funk & gospel, there are great new options this year, including gospel organ (3) from Charles Treadway, as well as new funk, tango, and rock ’n’ roll drums (3) and bass (1). And for big, bold arrangements, we have uptempo soul horns (4) featuring a three-part hip horn section with options for a full mix or stems of each individual horn — plus an accompanying rhythm section (4) of drums, bass, guitar, and electric piano!
Rock & Pop (Sets 476–482):
Our new rock & pop RealTracks bring a powerful mix of requested favorites, fresh genres, and modern chart-inspired styles! We have more of our popular “Producer Layered Acoustic Guitars (15)” featuring Band-in-a-Box favorite Brent Mason. We’ve continued our much-requested disco styles (10), and added new Celtic guitar (5) with a more basic, accessible approach than our previous Drop-D or DADGAD offerings. There are also highly requested yacht rock styles (17), inspired by the smooth, polished soft-rock sound of the late ’70s and early ’80s — laid-back grooves, silky electric pianos, warm textures, elegant harmonic movement, and pristine production aesthetics. Fans of heavier styles will love our new glam metal (13), capturing the flashy, high-energy sound of ’80s arena-ready guitar rock. We also have a set of rootsy modern-folk rock (18), with a warm, organic sound combining contemporary folk textures and driving acoustic strumming. And we’ve added lots of new modern pop styles (16) — the kinds of sounds you’re hearing on the radio today, featuring exciting new drums, synths, and cutting-edge RealTracks arrangements.
Country, & Americana (Sets 483–488):
Our new country & Americana RealTracks deliver a rich collection of acoustic, electric, and roots-inspired styles! We have new country pop (9) with legendary guitarist Brent Mason. There is also a potpourri (14) of bouzouki, guitars, banjo, and more, perfect for adding texture and character to contemporary acoustic arrangements. We’ve added funky country guitar (5) with PG favorite Brent Mason, along with classic pedal steel styles (5) featuring steel great Doug Jernigan. There are more country songwriter styles (8) that provide intimate, rootsy foundations for storytelling and modern Americana writing. Finally, we have “background soloing” acoustic guitar (12) with Brent Mason — simpler, but still very tasty acoustic lines designed to sit beautifully behind vocals or act as a subtle standalone solo part.
And, if you are looking for more, the 2026 49-PAK (for $49) includes an impressive collection of 20 bonus RealTracks, featuring exciting and inspiring additions to add to your RealTracks library. You'll get new country-rhythm guitar styles from PG Music favorites Johnny Hiland and Brent Mason, along with modern-pop grooves that capture today’s radio-ready sound! There are also new indie-folk styles with guitar, bass, 6-string bass used as a high-chording instrument, acoustic guitar, and banjo. Plus, dedicated "cymbal fills" RealDrums provide an added layer that work very well with low-key folky styles with other percussion.
The 2026 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2026 49-PAK!
2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
With your version 2026 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
Playable RealTracks Set 5
RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
iOS Android Band-in-a-Box® App
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
One of our representatives will be happy to help you over the phone. Our hours of operation are from
6:00AM to 6:00PM PST (GMT -8) Monday thru Friday, and 8:00AM to 4:00PM PST Saturday. We are closed Sunday. You can also send us your questions via email.
One of our representatives will be happy to help you on our Live Chat or by email. Our hours of operation are from
6:00AM to 6:00PM PST (GMT -8) Monday thru Friday; 8:00AM to 4:00PM PST (GMT -8) Saturday; Closed Sunday.
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean