Originally Posted by Bob Calver
I still wonder why we get so many BIAB queries about things that are dead easy to do in RB. Do new users not try RB? Is there a reluctance to leave BIAB when a project is in progress? Or just that its only in this RB forum that the benefits of using RB are laid out. Those of us that started on floppy discs and midi only BIAB got used to editing in PT in the days when the programs were much easier to navigate with much less steep learing curves. So maybe the current daunting task of mastering BIAB puts people off jumping into another program.
Speaking personally, I originally bought BiaB in 2012 as a better replacement for iRealPro ... my bandmates all said it was much better for practice. They were all also seasoned users of BiaB. For me, BiaB itself was a steep learning curve and, as I've mentioned before, the older interface simply wasn't usable on the small laptop I was using. I gave up on BiaB and, with the steep learning curve of it, didn't do any more than briefly look at RB. Both had the same VGA-style interface with a whole mess of big, clumsy, buttons. I walked away.

I came back a year or few later when the newer interface had come out, persuaded again by my bandmates. It's better to my eyes and is usable on that small laptop. But the learning curve and, I'm afraid, the number of bugs the year I returned really put me off of trying anything else. It's better, but I still find it takes far too long to do most things I want for practice, so I'm still using iRealPro. I used RB recently to adapt a MIDI song to a custom purpose and RB seemed to do it quite well, but I'm not sure it solved any of the "too hard" problems with using BiaB as a practice tool. The bottom line is that I want to practice making music, not spend hours messing about with a, to me at least, clunky user interface.

Just me perspective. Others will have different views.

Edit: putting iRealPro into perspective, under a little pressure I can enter the chords and structure for a song while a bandmate reads them out to me and then go on to use the chord-sheet in the session and the player later for practice. BiaB usually takes me an hour or so per song, even now I'm used to avoiding its Repeats screw-ups.

Last edited by Gordon Scott; 09/29/25 03:12 PM.
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