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I purchased a new Dell I7 32 meg tower. The speed improvement with bBox is incredible - but...lots of snap crackle and pop with Motu Asio. I have done a lot of time researching and setting up with poor results. I did however notice that bBox plays audio perfectly with built in sound hardware and driver?
My goal is to use bBox daw plug in with Sonar. This seems to work fine with non Asio for bBox and Motu Asio on Cakewalk. Using loop back allows hearing everything through the Motu output. I also recorded into Sonar with nice results. I had no idea this was even possible. So far this appears to be my best solution. I recorded for about an hour without issues.
Anyone else using multiple drivers and devices? Any settings I should be aware of? Comments appreciated.
Thanks!
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... but...lots of snap crackle and pop with Motu Asio... Try adjusting the buffer size in the ASIO settings. If the buffer is too small it can give the effect you are describing.
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If your MOTU uses multi-client ASIO drivers then you can use ASIO with both BiaB and Sonar. As AT suggested you can increase the buffers but that may yield latency in Sonar, you would have to check that out as I do not have a MOTU audio interface.
For many years I have been successfully running BiaB with MME drivers and ASIO drivers in my DAW. Using these two drivers I can run BiaB and my DAW simultaneously with absolutely no problems. I have used this method with a number of DAWs, including Sonar.
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Thanks. I tried every setting and it makes no difference.
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That sounds good. Nothing else worked for me Glad to know others use this successfully.
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There are some very knowledgeable folks here who probably have your answers, but I thought I'd share a recent similar journey that I had not long ago. I recently was experimenting with a Behringer UMC204HD interface with BIAB and I needed some settings suggestions to start from, so I put the question to ChatGPT and bingo, I got many suggestions which really helped a lot. (I used chatgpt.com, not the ChatPG here, which might be worth a try as well).
So I just put your Moto and BIAB to a ChatGPT question and received the following reply. I'm just mentioning that so if you haven't already tried the ChatGPT route or you've already received the answers you need here, it might be worth a try. I'd suggest not so much using the below info alone, but initiating a new chat tailored to your specifics. I also found in many instances followup questions in the same Chat thread really help open thing up for real good answers and suggestions.
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You said:
Motu Asio settings for band in a box
ChatGPT said:
Here are recommended MOTU ASIO settings for Band-in-a-Box (BIAB) that work well for most MOTU interfaces (M2, M4, Ultralite, 828, etc.) on Windows.
1. Band-in-a-Box Audio Settings
Open:
Options → Audio Settings
Audio Driver Type
✅ ASIO
ASIO Driver: MOTU Audio ASIO
2. Sample Rate (Important)
Set the same sample rate in BOTH:
Band-in-a-Box
MOTU Audio Console
Recommended:
🎵 44.1 kHz (best compatibility with BIAB RealTracks)
48 kHz also works, but 44.1 is safest
If they don’t match, you’ll get:
No sound
Crackles
Speed/pitch issues
3. Buffer Size / Latency
For BIAB playback & rendering (most users):
256 samples or 512 samples
If recording MIDI or live audio:
128 samples (low latency)
Go higher if you hear pops/clicks
BIAB does not need ultra-low latency unless you’re recording live.
4. ASIO Control Panel (MOTU)
Click ASIO Control Panel inside BIAB or open MOTU Audio Console directly.
Set:
Sample Rate: 44.1 kHz
Buffer Size: 256 or 512
Clock Source: Internal
Enable only the inputs/outputs you actually use (optional but cleaner)
5. Audio Outputs in BIAB
In Audio Settings:
Output Driver: MOTU Main Out (1–2)
Disable Windows audio devices (Realtek, etc.) to avoid conflicts
6. MIDI Settings (If Using MIDI)
If using BIAB MIDI synths:
MIDI Output: Microsoft GS Wavetable (basic)
Better: VSTi/DXi Synth (CoyoteWT, Kontakt, etc.)
Enable:
✅ Use VST/DXi Synth
7. Prevent Common Problems
Windows Sound Settings
Set MOTU as Default Playback & Recording device
Disable Exclusive Mode:
Sound Control Panel → MOTU → Properties → Advanced
❌ Uncheck “Allow applications to take exclusive control”
Power Settings
Windows Power Plan: High Performance
Disable USB power saving
8. Recommended “Stable” Setup (Summary)
BIAB
ASIO: MOTU
Sample Rate: 44.1 kHz
Buffer: 256–512
MOTU Console
44.1 kHz
Internal clock
Same buffer size
9. If You Tell Me:
I can dial this in exactly if you share:
Your MOTU model
Whether you record audio, just playback, or use MIDI
Windows version (10 or 11)
That lets me give you best-possible latency vs stability settings for your setup 🎶
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Very helpful. I did almost same with Gemini and got similar results Ai also confirmed that dual drivers has advantages.
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My PC is using a Creative Audigy FX internal sound card for playing music, playing videos and general stuff and only keep it because it has a sub out jack that I use for those purposes. It's been installed for a long time and working great. I don't rely on it for the other things that I do, so I started experimenting with the UMC204HD and using them in the same computer with the same windows 10 and the same BIAB and the same speakers (Reaper and Davinci Resolve and a few others also). I fought with the dual driver issues until I did the chat scenario and "they" walked me right through the correct settings to use and how to switch back and forth. Now everything works perfectly. One of the main solutions is I'm using a USB switch (suggested by chat) on the UMC and an A/B speaker switch (again suggested by chat) and let windows automatically choose which device to input from and output to. That seems to have solved my dual driver problems.
The AI stuff is really getting kinda scary......
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