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I'd encourage people first to practice their fundamentals until they don't have to think about them. The fundamentals can't be overstressed, fragments of scales and arpeggios make up the bulk of what we call music. If you can't do this without thinking, you are at a disadvantage. I'd encourage people first to practice their fundamentals until they don't have to think about them. The fundamentals can't be overstressed, fragments of scales and arpeggios make up the bulk of what we call music. If you can't do this without thinking, you are at a disadvantage. I'd encourage people first to practice their fundamentals until they don't have to think about them. The fundamentals can't be overstressed, fragments of scales and arpeggios make up the bulk of what we call music. If you can't do this without thinking, you are at a disadvantage. I'd encourage people first to practice their fundamentals until they don't have to think about them. The fundamentals can't be overstressed, fragments of scales and arpeggios make up the bulk of what we call music. If you can't do this without thinking, you are at a disadvantage. I'd encourage people first to practice their fundamentals until they don't have to think about them. The fundamentals can't be overstressed, fragments of scales and arpeggios make up the bulk of what we call music. If you can't do this without thinking, you are at a disadvantage. There you have it. Take the words "PRACTICE" and "FUNDAMENTALS" from that if you take nothing else. Learn how to play. Not how to program computers and call it your own. While there is an intellectual component to making music, that component is best applied to learning those (say it with me) FUNDAMENTALS. Scales, keys, how the different keys have sharps and flats, how those keys relate to each other.
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THAT BARSTOOL Classic Country/Western Swing https://soundcloud.com/user-227577634/that-barstool BIAB WSWNPSM.STY Medium Western Swing, W/Pedal St DAW REAPER Written, Sung, Mixed, Mastered and Recorded By: George McAllister (gmaque@aol.com ) Thanks For Listening, Hope You Enjoyed It
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I've played in cover bands since I was a child, and I'm proud of that. It's served me well. First, in school, we covered Beethoven, Dvorak, Mozart, and a host of others. The music was in front of us, we read the dots on the page, and followed the conductor. Got into a rock band in school, covering the hits of the day. With that I eventually toured the country, met a lot of pretty girls, and eventually became the opening act for major stars, while their records were in the top 10 on Billboard. Almost had a record deal ourselves, but that's another story. Many years later, I took a day-job, to investigate what being normal was all about. To me, being normal is very overrated. It paid well, and I gigged on the weekends, but was a proletarian wage-slave during the week. That might be OK for others, but it wasn't for me. One of those weekend gigs was in a jazz band. The leader taught jazz theory and guitar at the University of Miami, and played with Ira Sullivan at one time. Big heavyweight jazz players came to sit in every once in a great while, players that made me feel like I was faking it. The problem was it was one day per week, Sunday afternoon. Nobody around here makes a living playing jazz. Perhaps if I lived in New York, Chicago, or some other big market. Well, the day-job ended, and I realized, I don't want to do that anymore. Here is the point of this thread. If you want to play music and gig, you will have to make compromises. The compromises depend on where you live and what the music scene is there. - Compromise #1: play cover songs that are popular in your area. It could be pop, country, classic rock, folk or whatever. If a lot of people are doing it there, you can probably make a living playing covers. I know, those who want to play “art music” consider this option a sell-out.
- Compromise #2: play the “art music” of your choice, but in order to make a living, get a 40-hour, 5-days per week day-job. The art music could be jazz, originals, experimental, or whatever your heart is into.
Which is the right answer? It depends on you. Which is a bigger sell out? Cover songs or being a wage-slave? To me, working 40 hours per week not doing music is the bigger sell-out. YMMV I've done cover songs all my life. The mortgage is paid off, and I have zero debt. I don't have a lot of luxury items, and I would have made a lot more money if I stayed in electronics engineering. But I'm happy doing what I'm doing. When I was a Cable TV engineer, I was asked to do many things I liked, and many things that I did not. Most of all, I disliked being awakened by an alarm clock, putting on the metaphoric collar and leash, and reporting to the boss. But that's just me. Right now, I'm in about an 80% cover duo with my wife. I make my own backing tracks, and most of them are close to a famous recording. But we stylize the vocals, and leave room so we can improvise a solo in the song. Others are reimaginings of popular songs. Perhaps turn one into a Reggae beat, another Latin or funky/jazzy. These don't always work, but with experience, we've learned how to pick them better. A few other songs are ones we learned just for us. Once the audience is on your side, if you pick the right time, you can play music for yourself and they will actually like it. Our market won't support us if we wanted to do nothing but “art music”, so our Compromise #3 is to play what I guess you could call a semi-cover act. We are not as much of a cover band as a symphony orchestra, tribute band, or all-cover band, but I don't have to take a day job to pay the bills. Whatever your choice is, remember, there is no one right way for all of us. Whatever you choose, put your heart into it, and if you are enjoying it, don't let anyone tell you it's the wrong way to do it. Insights and incites by Notes ♫
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FURTHER CONSIDERATIONS RE BUYING A USB AUDIO INTERFACE. (this is more aimed at users new to music production…. based on many years of buying interfaces for myself, and seeing typical mistakes made by others in buying etc etc.) 1..just because a friend is happy with an interface doesnt necessarily mean you will be. 2..there are so many differently configured pc's out there that what might work on one pc might not on another. 3..just because someone on the net says 'i'm happy with xyz' doesnt necessarily mean you will be particularly if you have different feature set needs. 4..if you're baffled why an interface doesnt work on your pc but does on someone's pc you know…it could be simply that your friend has a pc that's been specifically optimised for music production or custom built by a manufacturer for music production and tweaked or your friend isnt on the net whereas you are and thus your running special protection mechanisms that take pc resources away from the primary task of music production. There are many reasons… regarding buying or optimising an existing pc for music production have a leisurely read of this… https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=795663#Post795663 5.so youve been on one or more recording forums and are baffled by the many different usb audio interface recommendations. For example, start a thread on a forum… 'I'm a new user…what do you all recommend as a usb audio interface'....youll get a load of different answers and opinions from studios large and small…. thus its important to assess your OWN feature set needs which might be completely different from people recommending a product on the thread you started. 6..as i said in the highlighted thread above to save disappointment its imperative imho to try and test the interface via renting (very inexpensive) for a week or get a 30 day return. The gear shop I deal with has a no questions asked return/money back policy. 7..it's very important to do one's homework prior to purchase. and really research the many many interface offerings on the market versus your needs so you dont miss the best product for you…and i would suggest not to rush into a purchasing decision. The interface, and I can't stress this enough is 'THE HEART OF YOUR STUDIO', i.e. in the same way people take their time re-buying a house to live in…same goes for an interface so buying mistakes arent made. Another reason to 'try before buy'. 8..some people are swayed by user ratings. i suggest you do your own testing and research because your pc might be different in how its configured or they are using hot shot pc's that cost oodles versus your old clunker that might need optimising for music production. 9..A BIG FOCUS in your product search should be interface DRIVERS and their performance. just because someone on the net gushes about their interfaces drivers…maybe your system is different. you won't know till you test ON YOUR PC. 10..i can't stress enough that the combo of pc and interface deliver very low total latency. please read up carefully on the net about how to get a very low latency music production environment... and/or see my link in this post. as you can see the purchasing decision re an interface should not be made without considering various factors. Finally, one's budget should be considered. as ive been in tech for many years I typically buy in the middle price range…as i'm always concerned about rapid changes in technology/obsolescence …just something to consider....also if i see price drops on a product...and its not a rule..but i will ponder if a new product version is coming out. Now you might want to know where you might look at lots of different interfaces. There are many sites on the net that sell a plethora of devices where you can research devices with also interesting articles and/or blogs….eg… https://www.sweetwater.com/c695--USB_Audio_Interfaces https://www.zzounds.com/cat--Audio-Interfaces--2418 https://www.musiciansfriend.com/audio-interfaces and many others on the net….also try your local gear shop if you have one nearby. I hope the above helps someone. happiness. om
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Hi Marty, Mario, Bass Thumper, J&B and David, Little late in my response to your very kind posts. There are excuses for that, but still I'm a bit late. But I want to thank you for what you wrote and will write something personal under your post; Oh, Mr. Hans, I love your work. I've been a fan of your music for a long time, and now these outstanding videos you're making add to the enjoyment. And then you elevate my respect even higher by bringing in Anne-Marie to dress up your song. Great idea with glorious results. I'm also so grateful you let me listen to these as they develop --as if I need to be more impressed. Marty, it is very important you're able to listen to the making of this song! You are always positive, but I think I can read between your lines sometimes. That has it's impact on the result. Thanks for that and the nice things you wrote here. Hans, you and Ann Marie make beautiful music together! Both vocals were spot on. I really liked that intro! Outstanding lyrics (I can relate) and mix. PS - I don't mind growing older its just the body falling apart that hurts! Hi Mario, Thanks for this, but your PS is what stayed in my mind. You said it so well (and painfull). But there is one nice thing here; you're not alone... This is a timeless song with very impressive vocal work. You and Anne-Marie are a great team. Well done. Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away. James 4:14 Hi BT, thanks for the nice words on the song and also your saying from James 4:14 (we call him Jacob here, I think). That's all true, but luckily we hope we are more than that vapor, otherwise we won't get anywhere (during our lifes) “When aging arrives, its grip is unkind” The above says it well! Y’all sound great together, Hans. Both of you are such soulful singers. The lyric is certainly relatable and the band is excellent. The cello and piano are perfect for the mood and the banjo was surprisingly a good fit. We enjoyed the video too, especially the end with the people reading the books following the line of “my words will become my legacy” and, of course, the cute cat. Now let’s all remember that we can still be young at heart. 😊 Good one! J&B Hi Bud and Janice, it was a little struggle to get the lyrics this way, in English and rhyming too. That's how I came to the word 'unkind' in relation to 'mind'. I was a bit fond of that. And now you picked that line! Funny... Same kind of story on the instruments. I like strings a lot, also those electric guitars, but still I missed something. A subte different sound. And that turned out to be the banjo. Maybe you noticed I mostly have a cat in my videos. This one was very lovely. Thanks for noticing! And I fully agree with your last sentence. I like humor too ;-) Hey you two sound really good together on this! Much enjoyed. Great production and performances all around. Hello David, Anne-Marie did a marvelous job on this song. And her BG-vocals after the solo really did a lot to the song. I gave her a concept of the song, with BG-vocals from me. But I said; you can remove everything (except the lead vocals) and surprise me. She did!!! Thanks for what you wrote on it. I hope we will have nice weather one day, but until then I hope you have a very nice day for now, Hans
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You are so good at mixing magic into your creations, Mario. This is a lovely scene in a movie --so many applications. I agree with Janne that you always bring us to this Mysterious Kingdom, and the adventure is always different and always a pleasure. I'm rminded of Larry Carlton's work on Against All Odds. Thanx Marty. I wish I was as good as Larry!
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Good Mornin' Nigel. Kind words from so far away, are much appreciated. I'm amazed that it's possible for that to happen. Music is certainly a universal language. Thank You for listening and taking time to write. There are some old posts you might like, if you can find them. More today. George
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Good Mornin' Marty. THANK YOU. If my song brought back good memories of your Mom and Dad, then I've accomplished what I set out to do. I really appreciate you listening and sharing your kind words. Yeah, that's me. I got the voice, Sam got the money.
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Thanks Bob! Tater and I had a falling out and we are not talking this month. He keeps picking fights with all of my other personalities.
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Thanks Mario and Marty, yeah! Herbie Mann and Jimmy Smith, great legendary masters in their instruments. Come on Marty, how can you not notice the dancers? Anyway, cheers. Mike B.
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<…snip…>How can "learning to play an instrument" be spot on? Isn't this rather obvious?<…> I think what is understood in that statement, is ho well you learn to play the instrument. It's a combination of learning things until you can play them without thinking about them, and enough experience so that you can play the right things at the right time without thinking about it. When I was young and learning to improvise in bands, I did a lot of thinking about what I was doing. Some things I did worked out well to my ears, others did not. Plenty more were between the two extremes. I never intended to get into the zone, I never tried to do it, and I don't think you can intentionally get into the flow. With enough experience, it just started happening. I didn't even notice it at first. So it's about learning to play the instrument well, plus a good dose of experience. As I said, I don't think you can go into the flow intentionally, and some people who are very good players never seem to get there, either. So I wouldn't be concerned about it. I'd encourage people first to practice their fundamentals until they don't have to think about them. The fundamentals can't be overstressed, fragments of scales and arpeggios make up the bulk of what we call music. If you can't do this without thinking, you are at a disadvantage. Then learn some other people's solos that you particularly like, and are at your skill level. Keep progressing and learning more difficult passages. Little by little, you will build up a vocabulary of licks, and they will reside in your subconscious. Somehow, and I can't explain how, to me, it's magic, the right notes will come out at the right time while you are improvising. My best advice is not to think about it. If you are meant to get into the flow, it'll happen all by itself. Keep learning, no matter how much you know, there is something else to learn. That's one of the things I like about music. Insights and incites by Notes ♫
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Soaring flute followed by a percussive B3 with great taste. Love that beat, man. Music so good I diden't even notice the dancers. Well done, Mike. Always enjoy my time at Cuban Pete's Dance Club.
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Outstanding, George. Man, this takes me back to my mom abd dad dancing in the kitchen. Excellent choice of instrumentation, and a good melody with the perfect vocal. Is that a pic of you --the one who looks like Sam Elliott's brother? Love the song!
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Thanks for sharing your journey with upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10. It sounds like quite the adventure! I remember when I tackled a similar upgrade on an old laptop of mine. It's amazing how a little persistence and some helpful YouTube tutorials can make all the difference, right? Kudos to you for figuring it out and getting everything up and running smoothly!
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You are so good at mixing magic into your creations, Mario. This is a lovely scene in a movie --so many applications. I agree with Janne that you always bring us to this Mysterious Kingdom, and the adventure is always different and always a pleasure. I'm rminded of Larry Carlton's work on Against All Odds.
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Love your busking attitude, Donny. You're right about meetng some special homeless folk. There I found some of the best life attitudes on the planet. Speaking of attitudes, I love your attitude on this one. Cool song, and love the lyrics. Cool funky feel and that guitar was an excellent choice, although it does seem to cut into the vocal a little at times. I'm not a good judge of cheesy, so I defer to the category speicialists.
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Mario, I disagree. How can "learning to play an instrument" be spot on? Isn't this rather obvious? How can you reach a state of flow if you flat out can't play an instrument? Another obvious statement is that the musician can't be in a coma, indeed, he must be alive  I'd be interested in hearing from veteran musicians that have experienced "flow" and how it aligns or doesn't align with this article. PS: Sorry to hear you have arthritis. Periodically check with your doctor and watch the medical news. Big Pharma (and Medium Pharma for that matter) are developing new drugs all the time. I meant that Eddie's statement about learning an instrument is spot on. Some so called "musicians" are just cutting and pasting loops together or using only AI to make a song. Once you have learned an instrument the flow can come naturally. I know you are learning an instrument or two so that statement doesn't apply to you. Yes, I think flow aligns with the article. Once you are in the groove and flow is happening it feels like all other parts of my brains shuts down, i.e. it is the ultimate high, at least for me. Yes, me and my doc has been on top of it. Actually I have found out that Hemp Root, dark cherry pills, and fish oil really help. On occasion I do have meds that help but I rarely need to take them. But some damage has been done.
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Marty, Great lyrics and a great delivery... Love the way you really get into the groove of these blues / rock pieces. Some excellent pedal steel by Bill and an awesome mix overall. You continue to produce some of the best music around here. Bob Thanks so much, Bob. Can't say I agree with that last line though. So many times I'll hear songs on here and ask myself why do I even do this. Some of you guys are way over the top good at this. My answer to that I can't help it. Marty...first off, I love the track you produced here...man that was a great arrangement, instrument selection and mix!...you know how to take heartbreak and turn it into a pleasant experience...at least for us listeners...light hearted music for a lost and lonely hearted song...your positivity is amazing my friend! I really liked when you added the harmony lines...honestly, your songs are so well written, produced and performed and this is no exception! Thanks, Dan, and, man, I'm diggin' what you're doing with synth vocals now, too. This one isn't a heartbreak song. They had great tmes before they realized it wasn't so great anymore. They are still friends living in the same town with their own families and white-picket fences, both enriched by the learning experience. At least that's what I imagine. Hi Marty, love the lyrics and the all around mix and vocal harmony. Cheers Mike B. Thanks, Mike.
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Eddie, is this directed at me? If so, I am learning an instrument, actually more than one; view the Showcase for examples. I don't see any examples of you on the Showcase. Can you play an instrument? I play 3. And I write. I produce my own stuff and have produced other local artists in my area. My lyrics come from my soul, not AI. My chord progressions come from my head, not Scaler. I have a BA in Music and as of this month I have 68 years of experience. (I followed that up with a 2nd degree, a BS in Computer Science.) I have been in some of the top bands in my area. I am just now old and physically unable to attack music with the passion and respect music deserves, so I retired from it rather than pretend I still have what it takes. I have now retired and quit playing, but I didn't have to give the degree back. I still know music inside and out. I have been a showcase winner of a free copy of BIAB 4 times. I am all over the showcase. Don't you know how to search? You likely do what you do at a very high level. I would never pretend to do what you do. That's good advice.
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Regardless of any political connection, acknowledging Bacharach/David's "Magic Moments" as one of the greatest music compositions of all time is 100% correct. In fact, just about everyone of Bacharach & David's compositions. Such genius is rare, very rare.
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Flow happens, if I am performing and can't get to the 'Flow' aspect, it's a bad night. However, as mentioned, practice does indeed help make the 'Flow' possible, but to me that went without saying. A musician knows how to play their instrument (or 2 or 3 or 4) A musician getting into the 'Flow' was the article, and yes, it happens. You know the music well enough that you are not in the 'reading/thinking/computing' state of mind (learning), but more in the feel/groove state, which is always a much better place to be. Music flows out of you that you never would have anticipated sometimes. rharv, VERY well articulated. I agree that practice is fundamental, the musician must know the piece "backwards and inside out". And this does go without saying. And I agree, as you say, that there is a difference between reading/thinking/computing (clunky, descrete, relatively slow, digital?) and feel/groove (smooth, continuous, effortless, relatively fast, emotional?, analog?) I'm sure there is more to this subject and it's neat that researchers are investigating this. As happens with so many other areas of research, most likely this area of research will result in unforecasted benefits in adjacent areas of brain science.
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Very cool style for this song. Perfect vocal and lyric. Really neat instrumentation. Well done Scott, glad you liked it! Thanks for the listen. Hi Ron. Wow! This is creativity on steroids. I loved it. The 'fairground' arrangement is superb and a perfect fit for RWD's extraordinary lyrics. The three of you have created something very special with this one. Musical brilliance at its best.--Noel Hi, Noel! THANK YOU for the kind comments. It was a lot of fun for all of us, so glad it hit the mark!
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........................ ANY flow starts with learning how to play an instrument. Maybe try that. Bingo! We have a winner! Spot on! Mario, I disagree. How can "learning to play an instrument" be spot on? Isn't this rather obvious? How can you reach a state of flow if you flat out can't play an instrument? Another obvious statement is that the musician can't be in a coma, indeed, he must be alive I'd be interested in hearing from veteran musicians that have experienced "flow" and how it aligns or doesn't align with this article. PS: Sorry to hear you have arthritis. Periodically check with your doctor and watch the medical news. Big Pharma (and Medium Pharma for that matter) are developing new drugs all the time.
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GH. agree with all in your post. frankly i also have never been satisfied with dropping an amp sim plugin on a track...but the quest continues.. hmmm..theres a song title 'never satisfied' ...lol..all about a guitar players search for that magic tone. frampton was only in HP a short time ?...forgotten...getting older....gradually loseing my high vocal range...sigh... done my eyes...now the docs wanna get my cho ldl down. maybe i'll end up as a singing cyborg..lol. those were crazy fun days for lots of musos..... happiness. om 🇨🇦 🇬🇧
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Sinds december 2023 mijn nieuwste versie BB2024 in gebruik genomen. Mooi en weer nieuwe mogelijkheden. Doe veel met audio omzetting naar wavfile Nu blijkt dat alleen in deze versie rendering 96 kilohertz een probleem geeft. Krijg een snel en hoog klinkend audiobestand (wave) te horen. Schakel ik terug naar 48 kilohertz geen probleem. In BB2023 is dit geen probleem. Iemand enig idee of hier een verklaring voor is?
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A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
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