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Hi Trax, The image below should help. Note numbers are constant whatever the C(number) value is for Middle C. For example... PG Music uses C5 as Middle C; Roland uses C4; Cakewalk uses C3. In all cases, though, Middle C is note 60.
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The song kicks off with your signature tone and cadence/phrasing...always a good way to start things. The vocal seemed a little thin over my listening set up. I 'heard' the 1st "such a beautiful place to kiss" as "such a beautiful place to kill". Could be my head but I listened twice and it was the same - when that phrase is repeated later kiss is clearer.
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For anyone who hasn't see this, here is a 2020 summary of True Peak Limit (dBTP) and LUFS-I and Dynamic Range for various streaming platforms. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=31121&filename=lufs-table.png) I came across this table while investigating how to use Reaper's limiter to reduce digital clipping of peaks while expanding the volume of the overall. Reaper's dynamic plugin "JS: Loudness Meter Peak/RMS/LUFS (Cockos)" is excellent for giving real-time feedback on clipping and various LUFS data. It is perfect for visualising output. When placed on the Master Track after a mastering plugin, this Loudness Meter plugin works well with any mastering tool (e.g. Ozone). This is the Kenny Gioia video that I was watching (in case anyone is interested).
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As usual I listened but didn't watch. Nicely assembled piece. The lead sol comes in a wee bit loud but settles down. Good balance of instruments. Aside from the solo guitar and sax the melodies were a little buried. Well done.
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Words n sounds n ideas n emotions...all there, all YEAH! Terrific writing.
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Thanks, that answers my question. I believe that the problem that I had is that, while I had created a couple of User Categories, I had never selected one. So I did not get the "ADD" dialogue menu item. dave
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I've just acquired Melodyne Studio. A video demonstrating how you use it with real tracks would be a great addition as Melodyne has been offered as a $99 upgrade from time to time. I use it (or will) for harmonising my vocals and fixing pitch etc. Hate to take us off topic, but I am just about to pull the trigger on my Melodyn Editor to Studio Upgrade. This is a big ticket ($299) upgrade. Sure would love to know where you find this for $99? My 30 day free trial is almost over. By the way, I have moved thorough all the levels of Melodyn over the years. But at this moment Studio, with its multiptrack editing, has want I need. It's supposed to be $99 Melodyne Editor Upgrade from Editor 1–4. One of the worst kept secrets is that some resellers do not require previous version verification with upgrades. It depends on the software. Sweetwater will sell you the upgrade. It's been so long since Celemony has had a major version upgrade but I don't remember entering my old license when redeeming my upgrade codes in the past. I think my first version of Melodyne Editor was v.2.
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Bob and Joliz, you have a new masterpiece on your hands with this one Bob, your story telling through music is absolutely impressive Joliz, your vocal was icing on the cake You backing band is perfect for this song and the mix was spot on IMHO this is your best to date Loved it
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Floyd, as one who pasted the hill's zenith a few years ago I can really relate to this song. Also the part about a woman's love; I met mine in 1964! As usual everything is professional. A great find from 2013. Loved it
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Pete, contemporary country at it absolute best. That vocal sounds real! Great backing band and mix Outstanding mix Loved it
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Brian, this is fantastic Loved the arrangement, especially those strings Super melody IMHO this is your best to date Loved it
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Ray, I loved this version Outstanding vocal that was up front as it should be for such a powerful song. Loved it Thanks Mario, Much appreciated.
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Really, really REALLY, Ray, a song this important really should have crystal clear vocals so that anyone can hear the words. I'm 100% pro the 'message' - I'm appalled by the nonconsciousness of humanity and our world leaders who are 95%+ 'heads that are a diminutive of Richard' (that's my Waoist woke!) - and among the charities I support I'm very pro Anti-Slavery International. Most people are totally unaware that there's more slavery now than when it was legal and that it's estimated that there are currently over 6 million sex slaves in the world, the vast majority female and ranging from underaged to very old age, but if I was to write a song about all coercers/bullies/slavers preventing millions from being true to themselves - as Shakespeare wrote, "First to thine own self be true" - posted it on social media and everyone heard a musical "mumble-mumble-whuyrrryyyrr-yudda-mumble" I'm sure I'd get listeners writing "What was the point of that?" Say it out LOUD, Ray, say it LOUD! WaoBand, I appreciate your support for the message. As to the mix: it's neither pop song nor folk song. I lifted the vocal level and clarity as far as I was prepared to but had to comply with your quote...""First, to thine own self be true." or, more properly, "This above all: to thine own self be true..." which Polonius utters as well as the notorious "Neither a borrower nor a lender be...". In full: "There, my blessing with thee. And these few precepts in thy memory Look thou character. Give thy thoughts no tongue, Nor any unproportioned thought his act. Be thou familiar but by no means vulgar. Those friends thou hast, and their adoption tried, Grapple them unto thy soul with hoops of steel, But do not dull thy palm with entertainment Of each new-hatched, unfledged comrade. Beware Of entrance to a quarrel, but being in, Bear ’t that th’ opposèd may beware of thee. Give every man thy ear but few thy voice. Take each man’s censure but reserve thy judgment. Costly thy habit as thy purse can buy, But not expressed in fancy—rich, not gaudy, For the apparel oft proclaims the man, And they in France of the best rank and station Are of a most select and generous chief in that. Neither a borrower nor a lender be, For loan oft loses both itself and friend, And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry. This above all: to thine own self be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man. Farewell. My blessing season this in thee." In high school in the mid 70s the analysis was of a pompous man offering contradicting, conservative, unlivable advice. A man satirized "Generally regarded as wrong in every judgment he makes over the course of the play, Polonius is described by William Hazlitt as a "sincere" father, but also "a busy-body, [who] is accordingly officious, garrulous, and impertinent". In Act II, Hamlet refers to Polonius as a "tedious old fool"..." All of that aside, I know what you were aiming at and agree...I weighed considerations to be otherwise with this mix and came down on the side of what, in my ears, "sounds" right as a song. A different arrangement, a different "band" and a different singer may have made this a shouty, angry declaration or a statement over a simple guitar but from the beginning, as the opening piano presents as evidence, this was intended to be a bit dramatic, a bit psych/prog and, as it doesn't lyrically address things "front on", a simple puzzle to be worked out. Thanks for the support!
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Aptly named. Hard not to be at peace while listening to this beautifully constructed instrumental. Great job Mario Really love this instrumental, Mario, The feel of it really reminds me of Francis Lai's material and your Swamming on it is just perfect. Thanx Chay. I did have fun recording this song. I appreciate your comments.
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Nice piece of music, Mario. Actually nice pieces of music and I love the whole plea for peace. Actually not a plea, but more of a place for peace. Very peacful compostion. The droning background mesmerizes the listener and the soothing melodies you've created for the top take them to new heights of peacfulness. Much enjoyed. Thanx Marty. I'm glad that I brought a little peace to your life.
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Hi, Mario. Nice soundscape - it lives up to the name!  The smooth movement of the chords from measure to measure was super-effective! Thanx so much David. I'm glad you noticed the chords. I'm glad you liked it.
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Janice, Bud, Floyd & Peter, this is professional sounding as it gets; it sounds like it came from a major studio. Everything is perfect. Love it
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Ray, I loved this version Outstanding vocal that was up front as it should be for such a powerful song. Loved it
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Ray, Such an impactful song and video... This is an all around outstanding production - something to be very proud of. Bob Ta Bob.
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Powerful song, powerful video. Good stuff, Ray. Thanks Dave,
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Ray, I liked your earlier mix, but this sounds nice, too. The video is a thought provoking layer, which is a treat since so many aren't this ambitious. Well done! Thanks Ron, I'm partial to the buried vocals closer to my original mix. This is the final mix posted in the other thread though professionally mastered. Things change a bit when they hit the mastering limiters, compressors & EQ.
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Mike, the only way to learn is to experiment This is a good experiment IMHO I think the classical sections are fine but I didn't like the rock part. I thought it came in abruptly and didn't blend well with the classical section. Also I would EQ some of the highs on the lead violins. But this is just my opinion. I do give you a lot of credit for trying this experiment and I hope you had fun.
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Chay, This is brilliant! Andrew D Thanks for listening, Andrew! Much appreciated.
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I'd not heard this first time around and now that I have I'd not have criticised anything, but then listening to the 2nd version, it's clearly a lot better from the start. The harmony vocals really add to it and the rhythm section is a lot clearer. Love the L.D. Miller harmonica, which also sounds better. The organ also fills it up towards the end, and of course I totally relate to the spirit of the lyrics.
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Dan, another gospel masterpiece. Great synth vocal and your harmonies Super lyrics and backing band Great mix Loved it
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