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I did some research on this over a year ago and at the time thought DistroKid was the best possibility. However, I'm just not interested in trying out any distributor for 2 reasons. The first is that I started self-publishing books in 2013, initially very hopeful, but over time I found that there was just so many millions of people worldwide producing eBooks on a regular basis that anything published just becomes another minuscule needle in a stack of minuscule needles. I haven't checked figures for a few years now, but last time I did Amazon alone had 49 million eBooks alone on sale - and the only books they'll promote are already bestsellers. Music is even worse as many thousands of new music tracks get posted daily. My 2nd reason is that I'm a UK pensioner living on State Pension and thus I have to declare any extra income, so even making a little money can cause oodles of bureaucratic problems as the system is designed to stop any kind of benefits payments, even when there's no good reason to. I sell on average about 1.5 books a year and as I posted free copies to friends worldwide after I first published paperbacks I've made less in royalties than I've paid out, thus my self-publishing is classed as a hobby from which no profit is expected to be made. You, Beth, are one of the few persons I know who may understand this, but how successful in any field with any kind of enterprise, dosh-related or not, you are doesn't depend on how much work you put in, or on how positive or enthusiastic you are (as 'new agers' like to think) it all depends on one's prarabdha karma. As great sages of many spiritual traditions affirm - and it's absolutely true in my experience over more than 5 decades - if it's in your 'script' it'll happen; if it isn't it won't.
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I want to get the 2025 UltraPak considering I now have a working copy of 2024 Band in a Box for Mac installed o my Mac I’d like to plug the ultrapak into one of the ports double click on set up and Once clicking ok on all the prompts and entering passwords where need have everything just install like I can on windows Is this possible If not, what are the steps I need to follow That is indeed possible! Just be sure to select either the Hard Drive or SSD backup copy during checkout. The download will install over the top of your installed copy. That is correct. Unless you are upgrading to Audiophile, I see no reason to get physical media In Mike's case I agree, as long as he has significantly more than 205gb available on his internal storage AND has a fast and reliable internet connection. As a general recommendation though I disagree, as Apple has decided to outfit their least expensive computers with only 256gb of storage, and an UltraPAK would take up nearly all of the available space on a brand new machine with no other apps or user data. Our tech support team spends a lot of time helping customers wrangle disk space - this is why we offer the option of physical media, as BB alone would consume 80% of the base model's 256gb drive and requires even more space for the downloads. The media being shipped is on a flash drive—too slow to run the app from that external, IMO (much slower than the USB 3 HHDs of the past). That is incorrect - the UltraPAK can be shipped on either an external hard drive or an external SSD, both of which use USB 3 or higher and can transfer at over 100mb/sec. The hard drive is more than fast enough to run BIAB directly from it, and the SSD is even faster. If pressed for driver space, you can install RealTracks and Drums onto an external SSD — which to get depends on your Mac. It’s easy to set up and let the Install Manager app know where everything is. That is correct - since it was introduced, our one-click Download and Install Manager app has vastly increased customer satisfaction and drastically reduced the amount of tech support calls.
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I just read that the 2025 BIAB Installed size is 750 GB (FLAC files) which is off since 2024 was 2.0 TB of AIFF files. Is there a reason for this? I buy the audiophile edition because of the higher quality sounds. FLAC compression is very different from MP3/WMA/M4A compression. MP3, WMA, and M4A are considered "lossy" compression - that means that the original waveform cannot be reconstructed perfectly. In simple terms it's been described that these algorithms remove frequencies that humans "cannot hear", although it has been proven many times that humans can in fact hear the difference or at least can hear artifacts of the compression. Lossy compression can compress as far as 90:1 (with absolutely abysmal sound quality), however the minimum "acceptable" quality is around 11:1 and "best" quality is 4.5:1 (however still lossy). FLAC is considered a "lossless" form of compression - that means that the original waveform can be reconstructed perfectly bit-for-bit. This is similar to putting a document in a Zip file - once the audio is extracted from the FLAC and saved as a WAV or AIFF the new file is exactly identical to the original, with no means of determining which is which (other than modification/creation date, file header information, or other non-audio metadata). FLAC typically compresses down to 2.5:1 - much bigger than lossy formats, but also much smaller than uncompressed. The only drawback to using FLAC over WAV/AIFF is that it takes a tiny bit more CPU power to decode the files when played - any modern computer is easily capable of that. In short, the new FLAC Audiophile has the exact same sound quality as the previous WAV/AIFF Audiophiles. Neither humans nor machines can tell the difference. if you choose to receive the SSD by physical mail, where all the files are in FLAC...if I understand correctly. That is correct. But what about add-ons that you reinstall afterwards (XPro, XPak, etc.)? How is that handled? The Xtra Styles PAKs do not include any new RealTracks or RealDrums - they include only style files, which use whatever RealTracks/Drums are installed. The XPro Styles PAKs include some RealTracks/Drums in lossy WMA or M4A format, however these RealTracks are already included in the Audiophile in FLAC format, so there will be no reduction in quality. The 49-PAK includes RealTracks that are not included with the Audiophile, and these can be downloaded in FLAC format. Meaning that FLAC is a lossless file compression format. That's in the name actually - FLAC stands for Free Lossless Audio Codec. BIAB 2025 Audiophile has 300 new RealTracks and Drums Correction - 200. Including the 49-PAK there are 222 new RealTracks/Drums for 2025. My only concern was that I could not see how to download the legacy tracks. It depends on which package you purchase. As I understand: If you purchase the download-only Audiophile then all 4900+ RealTracks are downloadable in FLAC format. If you purchase the SSD then all 4900+ RealTracks are downloadable in the compressed format. If you purchase the Audiophile PlusPAK then only the new 2025 RealTracks are downloadable in FLAC format (this package does not include any RealTracks or styles from previous years). I could have converted the RTs and Drums to FLAC as I have apps that will do this including TwistedWave but I wanted to see what the new deliverable is like. Now that I know, I will likely go to download only next year. TwistedWave is a great app for that, however it is costly, as audio conversion is just one feature out of many. I use a free app called XLD for bulk audio conversion, which does a great job. I've also used a very neat app from Zynaptiq called Myriad, which is not only a bulk audio converter but can do a ton of bulk editing tasks (trim, gain, apply a plugin, etc).
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Hi, Chay. Denisse does a fine job with this. You wrote: I really wanted my vocal songs to be of a much better quality... I'm not sure what issue you've got, because it sounds good. As Bud mentioned, the real work happens in the mix. To quote Google's AI summary, mastering "polishes the final mix, making it sound its best across different playback devices and ensuring a consistent, cohesive sound." Assuming the mix is good, there are quite a few tools that will get you that sparkle that's associated with mastering. Most of the mastering tools will focus on bringing your mix into a generally accepted EQ curve. You can also adjust the EQ of the stems to help them fit into the mix better, such as adding high pass filters to everything but the bass so there's not a lot of buildup of low-frequencies that can create muddy mixes. Figuring out where you want specific elements to sit in the mix, and then bandpassing them so they stay out of other tracks is another common action. TrackSpacer is a neat tool for carving harmonic space out of other tracks so they don't mask important tracks. It's one of my favorite plugins. I haven't tried Waves' Curves AQ, but it's on my To-Do list. It automates the things I mentioned, and even seems to have functionality like TrackSpacer. But really, the mix sounds good.  Thanks a lot for that extra re mastering, David. As I replied to B&J it echoes what many have stated online or in videos. I've actually had a look ate Waves/Curves and although there's more to it than in Soren AI Mastering I won't try it out as I now don't trust "auto"! 
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Tano pretty much nailed our thoughts on the harmonies and the arrangement. And we further agree with the melody note repeats. I think you were fortunate to connect with such a great vocalist. And especially one that you could well communicate with. I rambled on a bit about mastering below. Apologies Enjoyed it, J&B PS There is a post entitled "Loudness Target Limits for Streaming Platforms" on the off topics forum. I responded twice and my second response has some reference to our mastering techniques. You might find the info regarding the use of a "reference song" of some interest. FWIW Mastering for us is very personal regarding what WE want it to achieve. No way could we turn that over to AI. I want control over every aspect of it. You can't make a bad mix sound good with mastering but you can make a good mix sound bad. For us the goal is to make good mix sound great. And you have a good mix. And if your mastering program is brickwalling the mix it's time to try something else. J&B, thanks for the response and for the extra re mastering. You echo what I've read online, many commenters being anti-AI. Soren AI Mastering also has the reference track options and I've tried many from my CD collection which I have on PC, but I found the same not good enough results as I did from the presets/profiles. What I found worked best, but still not quite good enough, was using the WAV file of the actual music I was attempting to master! I was peeved today to receive an email advertising the launch of the 1.2 version of SAIM which now has 27 Style presets, not just the 6 on my only recently bought 1.1 version, but I'm definitely not upgrading to it as they want another €99 and I just don't have any faith in the product. I even tried it on solos stem files - there's only 1 Style for Piano alone - but while it works with piano and organ stems when I try any other instrument - guitar, fiddle, saxophone, etc - I get an error message. I'll check out that 'off topic' post you mentioned once I'm done here. Thanks for that!
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Excellent result in this project! I agree with all who have said that the vocalist's harmony tracks are amazing--I wonder if you directed her on this? I esp like the gentle movement of the song. My one suggestion: I think the vocal element is so stunning and attractive that I would have cut the guitar solo-ing way down so that the listener can get back into the vocal groove, which I think is the strongest part. But, besides that, I loved the composition and the repeating melody note motif...great work all the way around! Hey, Tom. No, I didn't have to direct Denisse on the vocal harmonies. It's all her own very professional work. Lucy who sings the differently instrumented "[smooth]" version of the song also provided amazing harmony vocal stem files. I hope to post that here the week after next. This "[rock]" version is 90% the same instrumentation as "Deya Flows V2" - it's 100% the same chord structure - and the Dave Cleveland guitar solo also takes up the whole of the 2nd cycle of the 3 cycles, but I love that guitar solo so much that I just didn't want to shorten it for this.
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Sounds good to me, Chay, I think you found the perfect vocalist for this song. Looking forward to hearing more in the future! Thanks, Dave. More than anything now I want to be posting sung songs, but where I live I never get the privacy to record live, so even where I want a female vocalist I still have to record a demo first to show how it needs to be sung.
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Really nice playing and production.
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Really excellent production all around, Sabrina. Love your vocals, plus I totally relate to the spirit of the lyrics. If this is your first ever post here it's exceptional and I look forward to hearing more.
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I have just downloaded all the appropriate files for 2025 (Win) onto the desktop pc, using the downloader program. I now need to update the offline laptop. Thanks. Lloyd S
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It's a for profit company. It has a dot com address. The real copyright office is a dot gov site. Same thing happens with driver license and other things. You have to be careful what site you land on. Yes it will most likely get you a valid us copyright but it will cost you more in fees and profit margin than the dot gov site
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People here have kindly shared the correct sites for filing copyrights online. That seems to be: https://eservice.eco.loc.gov/siebel/app/eservice/enu?SWECmd=Start But I also see this bogus looking one. This one below is not legit, I assume? In other words stay away?? https:/..../www... .copyright-registry-application-online.com/apply/?v=1752711414 I did not hyperlink it so no one would click, but I am just checking.... It must be bogus. Getting ready to do some filing...so I wanna make sure. As far as I know from you guys I go with the first one.
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Do you have the program on physical media - hard drive / flash drive? Or do you mean that you'd like to download the installer files on one machine and transfer them to another machine that doesn't have internet access?
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I have a set of instructions from PGMusic Support, but it is from back in 2020. I contacted the "Let's Chat" link but was told there isn't really a current instruction set. When I try to follow the 2020 list, it looks like it's missing some info. Does anybody have the current process they can post here? Thanks! LLOYD S
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This is Cool. The best example of this genre I've heard in the showcase yet. Of course we don't seem to get a lot of synth pop dance music. I'd love to hear some of your country rock. However, you should probably consider writing more of this too. Nicely done.
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Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles! We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles! As expected, you'll find a generous helping of EDM, techno, and hip-hop styles, but also included are styles ranging from synth-laden new wave, to new-soul, to dub reggae, and beyond! If you’re looking to stretch the outer limits of the musical landscape, you need Xtra Styles PAK 20!! In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more! All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now! Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20 here. Watch the Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos video: Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles! We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles! As expected, you'll find a generous helping of EDM, techno, and hip-hop styles, but also included are styles ranging from synth-laden new wave, to new-soul, to dub reggae, and beyond! If you’re looking to stretch the outer limits of the musical landscape, you need Xtra Styles PAK 20!! In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more! All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now! Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20 here. Watch the Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos video: Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box® version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums! We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B! There's something here for everyone among these 100 all-new RealStyles! The included 29 RealTracks/RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (and higher) package. If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more! All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on special for only $29 each (reg. $49), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now! Learn more and listen to demos of the XPro Styles PAK 9. Watch the XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos video: Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition
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We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box® version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums! We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B! There's something here for everyone among these 100 all-new RealStyles! The included 29 RealTracks/RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (and higher) package. If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more! All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on special for only $29 each (reg. $49), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now! Learn more and listen to demos of the XPro Styles PAK 9. Watch the XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos video: Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition
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Here's a different approach... Since your service life is 10 years, get a professionally assembled hardware DAW. Select the latest generation processor and twice as much memory as you need. Divide the cost by 10 to get your annual cost. $200-300/year (less than $1/day) for your music hardware backbone is manageable for many music enthusiasts. My studiocat.com DAW purchased in 2017 lasted 8 years, and was still going REALLY strong until Windows 10 end of life spooked me into upgrading to a Windows 11 DAW...
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Hi Sabrina! The synth pop is a welcome difference for this showcase forum. I think the long held vocal notes over the rhythmic backing works as a great contrast. Your vocal has a ‘Madonna’ feel to it (a compliment) which also adds to the 90s feel I also listened to ‘Invisible’ on your Soundcloud - really good backing vocal and harmonies! Andrew D
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Hi, Carl. Lovely sound. The fiddle in the background was a nice touch.
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As mentioned PD is defined differently in many countries. The US has about the most stringent rules and most folks misinterpret them thinking a PD sound recording is the same as a PD lyric and melody. Every Jan 1 is "PD Day" in the US. And the PD available songs move forward one year. This started several years ago. For 2025 songs from 1929 and older are PD. This means that if you create your own version not copying anybody else's you own ALL rights to the song thus meeting PG Musics protocol. Most folks do not consider a properly vetted PD song to be a cover. Covers have to be licensed and are not allowed on the forum. We have released entire albums of PD songs. Again this applies to your use of the melody and lyric. Actual audio recordings of old songs have to be a bit older but this is not what we are addressing here as this is mostly related to using one film, etc. The below safe link is helpful. https://web.law.duke.edu/cspd/publicdomainday/2025/ Have fun!! J&B
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Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
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Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac is here, packed with major new features and an incredible collection of available new content! This includes 202 RealTracks (in Sets 449-467), plus 20 bonus Unreleased RealTracks in the 2025 49-PAK. There are new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 4, two new sets of “RealDrums Stems,” XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAK 19, and more!
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Band-in-a-Box 2025 Italian Version is Here!
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È stata aggerate la versione in Italiano del programma più amato dagli appassionati di musica, il nostro Band-in-a-Box.
Questo è il link alla nuova versione 2025.
Di seguito i link per scaricare il pacchetti di lingua italiana aggiornati per Band-in-a-Box e RealBand, anche per chi avesse già comprato la nuova versione in inglese.
Band-in-a-Box 2025 - Italiano
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Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music
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