The "B" style of the Jazz#1 RD is dropping a clipped artifact every 8 bars every time I use this RD track. See pic.
A couple of things: 1: Presumably you have replaced the instruments from the _NIGHT2.STY, as that style uses different RealDrums to what you have shown? _NIGHT2.STY uses these instruments: RD: BebopLatin2Swing^07-a:Swing,Ride , b:Swing,BusyRide :Mike Clark RT752: Bass, Acoustic, Jazz BeBop Sw 190 , Neil Swainson RT755: Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm Jazz BeBop Sw 190 , Miles Black
2: It's interesting to note that both guitars 'mute' at the exact same timing location that the artifact you mentioned occurs:
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I tried with the Audiophile version and did not experience any artifacts anywhere on the drums track (using Jazz#1 by Terry Clarke), with B sub-styles.
what build number of 2024 are you using?
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1) Link to SGU example of this behavior: Jazz1BStyleArtifact Example . Listen/look at track at the end of bars 12,20,28,36,44,52,60,68,76 playing "B" subpart (This tune is set to vary style for middle choruses, so 2nd and 3rd time through the tune.) 2) I'm on 1109. Running Windows 11 3) Additional vizs of track example included.
Last edited by ShawnR; 04/03/2406:12 AM.
BIAB/RealBand 2024 Audiophile | GPO 5 | Windows 11 | Martin TR4501
The link to google drive requires a google account, you must have it set as this rather than anyone can download. I don't know why the hell PG banned SGU attachments from the forum !!!!
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Ah, looks like Google Drive defaults to restricted links, so I've updated the SGU link above with an unrestricted link and anyone should be able to access now.
Thanks you, gents, for taking a look.
SR
Last edited by ShawnR; 04/03/2401:06 PM.
BIAB/RealBand 2024 Audiophile | GPO 5 | Windows 11 | Martin TR4501
Additional info: I have changed audio driver settings per instructions from PGMusic Customer Support and regenerated, but still observing the artifacts.
I have also experimented with other early RDs (Jazz, JazzBrushes, JazzBrushes#1) and have confirmed my initial observation that this artifacting seems to be the case with ONLY Jazz#1 RD and ONLY the "B" substyle.
Regards, SR
Last edited by ShawnR; 04/03/2401:07 PM.
BIAB/RealBand 2024 Audiophile | GPO 5 | Windows 11 | Martin TR4501
Thanks that downloads. It's a very fast tempo, I can see there is a hit just before the next section starts, you are using 2024 so you can edit that by clicking the Riff Edit button and edit the sections. I will look more at it later:
Yes, this just happens to be an uptempo tune, but can be slowed down. The artifact is still there at any tempo.
As additional experiment I added and generated other early jazz genre RDs (Jazz, JazzBrushes,JazzBrushes#1) and confirmed my initial observation that these artifacts are a function of ONLY Jazz#1 and ONLY the "B" substyle. Here is the SGU of same tune with these additional RDs..
Yes, I have done the very editing you are demonstrating above as a work around, but this is becoming very tedious.
SR
BIAB/RealBand 2024 Audiophile | GPO 5 | Windows 11 | Martin TR4501
So are all the issues are where it transitions from B > A ? If the transition started a bit earlier it should fix the issue rather than being directly on the bar. In the drum txt file they seem to be set to Offset=-12 If you try that it might solve the transitions, you can try it and see what you get.
Often a drummer will hit a drum or cymbal slightly before a beat so that the actual peak of the sound occurs on the beat itself. The offset determines how many ticks (1 beat =120 ticks) before the downbeat a bar of drums will be taken from the style wave file, which is intended to compensate for any occurrence of this early playing on the drum track. It is important to note that if a bar is taken 10 ticks early from the style wave file, it is also placed 10 ticks early on the Band-in-a-Box® drum track, so there will be no shifting of the actual groove.
These artifacts are definitely not drum kick and, in fact, are not related to any percussion sound. They are short burst of extraneous noise that are being introduced into the track via post processing. They occur on the upbeat (perhaps even a bit after this) of the 4th beat of the last bar of every 8 bar section of the "B" substyle of the Jazz#1 style. Based on my experience with a number of the Jazz RDs, this is the only RD that exhibits this behavior. So, I don't believe this is an issue of offset - it is an issue of this noise being added to this specific RD track due to some sort of processing.
SR
Last edited by ShawnR; 04/03/2407:15 PM.
BIAB/RealBand 2024 Audiophile | GPO 5 | Windows 11 | Martin TR4501
I was going by the bar numbers you showed and it was where it went from A > B or B > A If the noise in the middle of a section you won't have a join, if you can show a pic in Edit mode where it is other than at a join then you can disable that bar in the txt.
Thanks for the tip. Yes, this issue is occurring at the joins at the end of the measure prior to a "B" partmarker. (or an "A" partmarker on a middle chorus configured to "vary style on middle choruses" as is the case with my examples).
I've also discovered that the amplitude and "distinctiveness" of these artifacts increase as the tempo of generation increases. For example, this same Jazz#1 RD generated at 120bpm, while it still shows evidence of this artifact, isn't as amplified and is more diffused (resulting in it being less obvious) that if it is generated at 250bpm - which is very obvious. Unfortunately, generating slower and then setting for much faster playback isn't an good strategy as the Jazz #1 RD generating at 120bpm doesn't sound realistic played back at 250bpm. So, the clean-up technique you demonstrate above is the the only option until this is addressed by PGMusic.
SR
BIAB/RealBand 2024 Audiophile | GPO 5 | Windows 11 | Martin TR4501
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