|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 27
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 27 |
First time poster. I have had BIAB for a few years and am very impressed by what it can do but really getting frustrated trying to use it. I have version 2010.5 (304) that I just upgraded to and am hoping this will take care of the total freeze up of my PC BIAB does almost every time I use it.
But the first issue I need help on, if I am even going to dig into the freezing issue, is an echoing that is driving my crazy. I have done alot of searching in the forum and before that a whole lot of searching in teh options window. This is pretty much my setup and tell me if I need to give any more information.
- Windows 7 Home Premuim Service Pack 1
- Toshiba Satellite L445
- BIAB 2010.5 (304)
- Alesis Quadrasynth
- E-mu Xmidi 1x1 Tab (This connects my PC to my Quadrasynth)
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Jim Lee
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 8,021
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 8,021 |
Turn off the echo in the QuadraSynth.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 27
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 27 |
I would love to do that but I am not sure how. If you are referring to the reverb and chorus buttons on the Quadrasynth, those are turned off. What I have is a midi keyboard that is connected to the QS. The sound is absolutely normal when I play this way. As soon as I attache the midi interface mentioned above and am playing through BIAB the echoing begins on all channels.
I have used BIAB before without the echoing. And I am not talking about one echo. I am talking about multiple echoes.
Thanks,
Jim Lee
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,892
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,892 |
Welcome to the forum, Jim. John is probably right, but it would help clarify if you told us WHAT is echoing. We're assuming you mean your MIDI keyboard. EDIT: I see you posted again. OK.
As far as freezing, a common cause in any audio software is device drivers. Are all yours up to date?
Last edited by Matt Finley; 04/18/11 08:40 AM.
BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 21,646
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 21,646 |
I would guess the midi is going into the QS from the keyboard, going out to BiaB, and then from BiaB back to the synth again creating the echo (and back from the synth to BiaB and back again); a midi loop.
Can you connect the keyboard to BiaB input, then connect BiaB output to the synth? That way the 'midi thru' of the synth is eliminated, thus eliminating the loop.
Make your sound your own!
.. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,333
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,333 |
Make sure in the midi driver settings (Opts Prefs Midi) that the loop thru is not checked.
And Dxi is unchecked too.
John Conley
Musica est vita
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 21,646
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 21,646 |
John Conley's loop thru suggestion would probably work too.
Make your sound your own!
.. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 27
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 27 |
"Make sure in the midi driver settings (Opts Prefs Midi) that the loop thru is not checked.
"
I don't see a 'loop thru' checkbox on the window title "Midi/Audio Drivers Setup".
BUT my echoing went away...I am not sure why.
Next challenge is that since my Quadrasynth appears to be to ancient to be listed in the same screens "General MIDI Instruments Misc" pull down I want to keep BIAB from sending any patch changes to my Quadrasynth as whenever that happens it ends up setting channel(s)
to "Perihelion" which is a nerve wracking sound that I have grown to cringe at. I believe its only significance is that it is the very first sound on the main bank of the synth.
Here is what I have done to try to turn off all patch changes:
Options/Preference/Midi Options....then made sure that all the checkbox's on the right that start with the option "Allow ANY patch changes" are unchecked.
Is there anything else I need to do to prevent all patch changes? I think that even if it is only changing the style it sends a signal for a channel to change and most of the time it changes to the dreaded 'Perihelion' sound. If I was smart enough I guess I would delete that sound from the synth.
Question: Is there any entry in the above mentioned "General MIDI Instruments Misc" that would at least come close to my Quadrasynth bank? Or, is there anyone out there using a quadrasynth that has come up with one of whatever files those are on their own?
Thanks to all very, very much. I am overwhelmed by the responses. I wish I had known about this forum long ago.
Jim Lee
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 27
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 27 |
"Can you connect the keyboard to BiaB input, then connect BiaB output to the synth? That way the 'midi thru' of the synth is eliminated, thus eliminating the loop. "
Actually I think this is how I am connected right now. I have a keyboard that is connected to the EMU USB interface to BIAB, then BIAB output goes to the Quadrasynth.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,333
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,333 |
There are patch maps under support with the following listed which may work with your system.
Patch File for Synth PAT INI DK
Alesis Nanosynth (12K) Created by Dave Halterman .pat .ini
Alesis NanoPiano (12K) .pat .ini
Alesis QS6 (15K) .pat .ini
You just need to follow a few instructions to get them to work.
You may find that checking the Dxi synth box and switching to the Forte option might sound better. Or not. I have some hard synths and soft synths...depending on the system I'm using.
John Conley
Musica est vita
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 21,646
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 21,646 |
Unfortunately I don't think you will find a patchmap that will match the quadrasynth. They quickly changed the patch layouts in the QS series to work with General Midi. That was a huge shortfall for the quadrasynth at the time (IMO). Even the QuadrasynthPlus changed the patch layout (before the QS series was even started).
It is possible to create one and many of us here have done so, which is why there are so many in the support section; they were done by other users. They are essentially just text files with an ini filename extension. You have to be careful with formatting, but it is explained pretty well in the ini files you have, or any you download. It does take a bit of understanding how MIDI and patch banks work though.
Make your sound your own!
.. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 27
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 27 |
Got it about the patches. I think that I actually created one years ago.
Now my issue is after copying over the above mentioned .pat files my display is wasted.
By wasted I mean you can not see the chords on the main screen and it is a mess. Not usable. I deleted the .pat files that I copied into c:\bb but the display remains useless.
- Is there some issue(s?) using BIAB 2010.5 with Windows 7 Home Premium. It often locks up this laptop tight as a drum so that I have to do a cold boot.
- Is there any software that is similar to this but not as complex and buggy?
- Is there a file in the main c:\bb directory that I can delete and BIAB may start up with a usable screeen?
I realize I am being very needy but I really would like to use this software but my patience is wearing pretty thin at this point.
Thanks,
Jim Lee
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 21,646
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 21,646 |
There are people here who know which files to delete so BiaB resets itself. I'm not 100% on it so I'll let someone else chime in.
As far as another software, have you tried Realband that came with BiaB. It is a little different and runs well on Win7 here. You can still generate parts, etc. Actually it's a little more flexible in some ways, but not as convenient in others. Worth checking out.
You can actually open BiaB files in Realband
In support section it says sometimes deleting 'intrface.bbw' will cause a reset.
Can you restore the original ini file?
Last edited by rharv; 04/18/11 06:38 PM.
Make your sound your own!
.. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,892
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,892 |
Opt, Return to Factory Settings seems to recreate that intrface.bbw file. Yes, deleting it would be the 'old' way to reset, and perhaps the only way if you can't start the program.
BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
Hi sasji,
I notice that ou are using Windows 7.
*Important: Are you using Windows 7 32 bit or Windows 7 64 bit?
*When you installed BiaB, did you install it to the Program Files folder? If so, this can be problematic. Installing BB to C:/bb all in its own folder is preferred. This is because BB must write to certain files when opening and closing and the security stuff included with Windows 7 doesn't like to let that happen to folders stored in Program Files.
*Many of us have found that it is best to turn off User Account Control (UAC). May not be needed in all cases, but worth a try if all else fails.
--Mac
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Video: Next-Level AI Music Editing with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box®
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 German for Windows is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!
Wir waren fleißig und haben über 50 neue Funktionen und eine erstaunliche Sammlung neuer Inhalte hinzugefügt, darunter 222 RealTracks, neue RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, abspielbare RealTracks Set 3, abspielbare RealDrums Set 2, zwei neue Sets von "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 und mehr!
Paket | Was ist Neu
Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums66
Topics81,691
Posts736,058
Members38,541
| |
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean