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I'm using a ua-4x and sd2. I get everything ready in BIAB and mix. The song sounds fine to me. Then I render to .wav and play it. It doesn't sound the same and some instrument volumes are now different than when I played the song in BIAB. Would it be better to just open the song in RB? Should I try to do the mixing in RB or another daw? I currently have Mixcraft and Wavepad available. Thanks for any suggestions.

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Stan, if you have trouble rendering, there is another way you can try: direct recording of the song. Start Wavepad recording, then play the BIAB song. This is the way I made all my .WAV files for BIAB songs for years before rendering or Drag & Drop was possible. The added benefit is you can trim the ends and do fades as needed.

Just make sure Wavepad and BIAB are not both using the same soundcard with ASIO drivers.


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UPDATE: Drag and Drop works fine going from BIAB to Mixcraft. I just dragged the tracks to Mixcraft, added effects, the mixed to an mp3 file. I can't get drag and drop to work from biab to rb. At least I ended up with a workable solution. Thanks, Matt!




Thanks Matt. I may try your suggestion with Mixcraft. Although I see "Record" on Wavepad, I'm not sure how the"Play" output gets from BIAB to Wavepad. I know that I don't have ASIO drivers in use for BIAB or RB.

Actually, I usually end up in Wavepad anyway since I can't get BIAB or RB to render to an mp3.

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I'm using a ua-4x and sd2. I get everything ready in BIAB and mix. The song sounds fine to me. Then I render to .wav and play it. It doesn't sound the same and some instrument volumes are now different than when I played the song in BIAB. Would it be better to just open the song in RB? Should I try to do the mixing in RB or another daw? I currently have Mixcraft and Wavepad available. Thanks for any suggestions.

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SD2 is a hardware synth, fast Rendering cannot be done with a hardware synth.

The reason your fast Render sounds different is because it must be using one of the DXi/VSTi synths installed on your computer to effect the fast Rendering.

You have to record the Audio L & R outputs of the SD2 to an Audio .wav stereo track instead. From beginning to end.

Possible to do in BiaB using the single Audio track available, much easier to do in RB IMO.

OR - use another recording app to record BB as it plays back. Audacity works for that here.


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Hi Mac. Thanks for your comments. I was wondering if that was the problem. How do you set your BIAB "Record" to output to Audacity? When using midi, I always try to use the SD2. It was your recommendation of it that got me hooked. Thanks.

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Hi Shastastan,

Since the SD-2 is the audio device that you're trying to record, you'd have to hook the output of the SD-2 to the input of your UA-4X. Ensure Audacity/RealBand is set to record the input from your UA-4X. Then simply hit Record, and press play in Band in a Box.

If you open the Band in a Box song in RealBand, you can do all of this in one program as Mac was suggesting.

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Yes, I've done it in RB and merged all audio tracks to .wav file. RB is indeed easier. I can see the SD2 blue led blinking as I record audio. I'll just bring the file into RB from now on to mix. thanks.


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